B&Q demands

[Doomed]

Same job as the round patress.
Lady has new electric oven and seperate electric hob coming.
Both are apparently 32A
B&Q want a seperate radial for each.
I would of thought that with discrimination I could of reused the existing 45A cooker circuit, but B&Q say no.
It will be a real pain to run another feed (laminate floors throughout).
Comments please.

 

[cdavies33]

My advice to you is to stop working for B&Q, had pervious experience with them and the problem starts up the top..... The moron designng the kitchens wearing the suit! no where near competent enough.

 

[dim_bulb]

are B n Q qualified competent electricians like yourself?

no

 

[High Tower]

Are B&Q going to be signing the design section of the EIC cert??, no i didn't think so!

Has the installation been designed by a suitably competent person.....no i didn't think so

You haven't stated the Ib of the appliances, but with diversity of 10A+30% i am sure 45A would cover it. as far as i am concerned the word of some div in the big orange shed, doesn't class as manufacturers instructions.

I would personally stick to your guns on this one.

 

[JD6400]

Tell matey boy who said no to nip of and mix another " wrong colour " batch of paint up , that should get him off your batch for a bit !

 

[Robinson]

Depends on their total loads no? and what size the cooker circuit? 6mm i take it....OSG tab 1a Current demand.Cooking apps. 10A +30% of remainder of the rated current. As high tower i now realise has stated...But i too am fed up with this. not just B&Q but building contractors too architects moaning about things they have no idea about. Do they in orange and black tops work out the demands, diversities, grouping factors, voltage drops, ref methods and it goes on......these people dont think of all the factors. they just read of the card. seemingly.

 

[JD6400]

We find architects are the worst , cretins !
On bloody big money as well , may i add !!!

 

[morph]

let me guess they want two supplies but no isolator or maybe one but hidden where you will never find it , kitchen companies are a total bunch of spacs!

 

[Octopus]

This is yet another good example of the poor job our schemes, Elecsa, Napit and NICEIC do promoting the good cause of their professional members.

Maybe they shouldclub together and do some marketing for the good of the profession

 

[Mark_Burgess]

The mother in law was told the exact same thing about new circuits etc, they had fixed charges and wanted her to sign up, sensibly she declined them doing the electrical work and I sorted out what was needed.

The dumb butt kitchen fitter almost had me shove the cable calcs/diversity down his throat as he was such a know all ignorant git!

 

[Robinson]

The mother in law was told the exact same thing about new circuits etc, they had fixed charges and wanted her to sign up, sensibly she declined them doing the electrical work and I sorted out what was needed.

The dumb butt kitchen fitter almost had me shove the cable calcs/diversity down his throat as he was such a know all ignorant git!

IM amazed the fitter was using diversity and calcs? or have i got that wrong way round. you were he werent?

 

[Mark_Burgess]

I had to drum into the fitter calculations and diversity, they went on the basis of separate hob and oven meant separate supplies as that is what they always do!
Regardless of the appliance rating, cable route size and protective device fitted.

Also the bonding needed to be upgraded to the water according to them as they could not see it in the kitchen! That would be as the water inlet is in the corner of the attached garage, 7 foot away from the consumer unit with that funny green and yellow sleeved wire attached!!

 

[topquark]

..... Also the bonding needed to be upgraded to the water according to them as they could not see it in the kitchen! That would be as the water inlet is in the corner of the attached garage, 7 foot away from the consumer unit with that funny green and yellow sleeved wire attached!!

Amazing!

 

[JD6400]

Mark_ Burgess , don't even get me started , we had one about 4 years ago .
We had done a cu change and remedial around three months earlier , any way i got a call from the client who was not at all happy , it turns out that the kitchen fitter had been giving it large that we had installed cheap none Ce compliant gear and we had ripped our client of with none needed work !
We as always excepted full responsibility for all disagreements / faults and costs to rectify like we always do until proven otherwise so the client soon calmed down !
I get out there and have quite a friendly chat with the kitchen fitter ( it's not his fault he is clueless yet qualified to sign of his inferior work by nic , hes only trying to make a living legitimately even if it is woefully wrong ! ) and he says my board didn't have the BS numbers stamped on the front of the trips so it must have been a cheap import copy ( it was a steeple . A Denmans home brand , not main stream but in my opinion that generation of board were very tidy ! ) so i explain that some very main stream make do not either then he says i should have left the 6mm bonds as there was no need to up grade !
After i show him some regs he is happy , and goes on to admit that he is out on a limb with nothing but a martin dale , just a osg and no regs but best of all no training ! He said he started a evening course but it interfered with his football so only did a couple of nights and felt he had learned enough !
He reckons the assessment was a breeze and there was talk of making him a approved contractor if he had paid another grand.
I tell the client all is well but he still wants proof so i get on to Nap""it technical and they were the us hall waste of space ! I end up ringing nic on the kitchen fitters behalf and they put my clients mind at rest , bearing in mind we are not even with them !!!
Its not about a stealth tax for the honest really it is about safety ?!!!!

 

[Dcf]

Works hard enough to get without all these muppets quoting regs n stuff that mean hee haw to them to worried customers.is it not about time niceic and the rest of them cut out all this nonsense and put it back into the sparks court.there plenty of retrained taxi drivers out ther to do the work no?