Bathroom zones with a ceiling shower head

[Geoffsd]

Didnt bother reading so Shower is on ceiling defo class as zone 1, you are getting wet are you not, bgb is a guide not a law as there are so many changes and this proves a change, so stick with idea im getting wet you will be fine zone 1 think your in zone 2 your strange, and breaking law as you will be in jail if it hurts LMAO.....

Brilliant.

 

[IanHug]

Didnt bother reading so Shower is on ceiling defo class as zone 1, you are getting wet are you not, bgb is a guide not a law as there are so many changes and this proves a change, so stick with idea im getting wet you will be fine zone 1 think your in zone 2 your strange, and breaking law as you will be in jail if it hurts LMAO.....

What if I was really short and stood on the ceiling?

 

[Darkwood]

Didnt bother reading so Shower is on ceiling defo class as zone 1, you are getting wet are you not, bgb is a guide not a law as there are so many changes and this proves a change, so stick with idea im getting wet you will be fine zone 1 think your in zone 2 your strange, and breaking law as you will be in jail if it hurts LMAO.....

Moose not disagreeing with you but you are contradicting yourself..... you state the regs are a guideline which i agree with then you end with you are breaking the law Errrmmm! no it isn't; the 17th edition isn't the law its a regulatory guideline and if you dont follow it you can be subject to the law through various angles and your case is very weak if you don't follow the reg's

 

[Octopus]

What if I was really short and stood on the ceiling?

You would be harry potter.

 

[MDJ]

What if I was really short and stood on the ceiling?

:leaving: still being a good boy here Marvo

 

[telectrix]

would the anti-gravitation generator need to be IP rated, or shall you fit it outside the zones, whatever you decide to class as zones. and can you let me have a copy of the amended zone diagrams, as the ones i've got in the bgb are clearly out of date.

 

[MDJ]

Hahaha

 

[Deleted member 26818]

The new definitions of special locations for building control purposes are being trimmed back. In bathrooms only work in a defined zone needs to be be notified - http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_AD_P_2013.pdf Page 6.

If anything below the shower head is notifiable then recessing the electrical fittings so that they don't project under the shower head would seem to put them out of the special zone.

I'm a DIY'er working on my own house but I do the work because I like doing it not because I have to and I like to do it properly.

This is not a change in the Part P Regulations, as already pointed out by Geoffsd.
It has been the case, that a special location is limited by the zones since at least 2010, and probably since inception.
The difference being, that the Approved Document now contains the information.

 

[IanHug]

Okay so is it the case that only zone 1 work would have notifiable anyway and what is changing on 6th April is the need for a Part P reg competent person to carry out the work in the bathroom?

So if that's the case, there would be no need to notify outside of Zone 1 and no need to use a Part P either to carry out the work or third-party certify it unless it required a new circuit?

 

[trev]

An EICR I would sign as that is an opinion, an EIC I would not because you are stating that the work complies. No ifs or buts

 

[Octopus]

Okay so is it the case that only zone 1 work would have notifiable anyway and what is changing on 6th April is the need for a Part P reg competent person to carry out the work in the bathroom?

So if that's the case, there would be no need to notify outside of Zone 1 and no need to use a Part P either to carry out the work or third-party certify it unless it required a new circuit?

Mate, ring your LABC and see what they say.


This is a forum for sparkies, not a forum for giving DIY advice.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

No, the special location is limited to the zones.
That's zones 0, 1 and 2.
If any of the work is within any of the zones, then it is notifiable.

Whether a Part P registered person conducts the work, is as has always been the case, your choice.
The height of both zone 1 and zone 2 is defined by the height of the shower head, or 2.25m from finished floor level, whichever being the highest.

Yes it is to be the case, that a third party will be allowed to certify the work.
Unfortunately, as yet no decision has been made on how such a proceedure will work.
Untill something has been worked out the third part certification scheme is a non-starter.

 

[RmBo_0]

You say you want to do the job properly so just put lights in rated ip44 or higher. But for the love of god make sure you only have a 3amp circuit feeding your fan.

 

[IanHug]

You say you want to do the job properly so just put lights in rated ip44 or higher. But for the love of god make sure you only have a 3amp circuit feeding your fan.

Fan would be inline & fixed to wall in the loft. Still need a 3amp fuse? Only electrical part that is accessible is the lamp which is 12v led.

 

[telectrix]

read the in structions.