Bedroom lights without earths

[Car123]

Here is another question. In my bedrooms 1 light is earthed and two are not. The lights are pendants..All plastic fittings. I have been told there needs to be further investigation. The investigation apparently needing to get up in to the loft to look for the earth. This is a problem for me as the loft is looked and choker block with my stuff. Loads of it. The loft is locked and I am not sure where the key is. (Lockdown intervened(.Anyhow I have asked the electricians why they need to investigate further. I said I thought it was okay that bedroom lights are not earthed with plastic fittings. They just dont answer. I am feeling a bit desparate about it as I have 28 days to complete the work

 

[Car123]

Noooooo not Wetpeasants!....wetpants......they certainly ain’t peasants the money they charge ? although I’d love to be there when you jokingly call one a peasant whilst he’s attempting to save ya house ?

The majority of plumbers I have had have been fine though as you say they charge high prices. But I had some lousy ones and it makes sense that in the absolute mayhem they created that they managed to screw up the clamp

 

[Baddegg]

The majority of plumbers I have had have been fine though as you say they charge high prices. But I had some lousy ones and it makes sense that in the absolute mayhem they created that they managed to screw up the clamp

Hence our endearing term (honestly) of wetpants......I’ve no idea what they call us although my tame wetpants genuinely believes that electricity is all “ white magic” ?

 

[James]

Hence our endearing term (honestly) of wetpants......I’ve no idea what they call us although my tame wetpants genuinely believes that electricity is all “ white magic” ?

"black magic" matter too!!

 

[Car123]

Yes mate bad ones ? kevs are kitchen fitters and builders are.......you know! ??

What are roofers. Is this Northern terminology. I am in Cornwall

 

[Car123]

I've come across several landlords that have paid for an EICR to be done, only to be told that there is a lot of remedial work before it is issued. In a couple of cases, the report was not even drafted, and half the tests not actually done. I would be suspicious of being asked to pay for remedial work before you can have a copy of the report.

Once you have the report, you can decide whether to use the original electrician or someone else to rectify the issues. You should not have to pay to have a second complete report done.

But I will need the report with details of everything being okay. I have to give this to the tenants

 

[Baddegg]

"black magic" matter too!!

That made me laugh mate ????

 

[Baddegg]

What are roofers. Is this Northern terminology. I am in Cornwall

As a carpenter originally I point out to em that they are just failed carpenters....as historically roofing was a chippies job......they generally through slates etc at me at that point ?
Northern terminology?.....my feet get wet in the channel if I walk 5 minutes south ?

 

[James]

But I will need the report with details of everything being okay. I have to give this to the tenants

Not correct,
you need to provide the Tennant’s with a report
That is now a legal requirement

If there are dangerous faults listed in the report, you have to get work or further investigation started on that within a month.

So if the electrician is withholding the report, it is there fault that you have no report for the Tennant’s, you have paid for it, you should receive it.

 

[Car123]

411.3.1.1

A circuit protective conductor shall be run to and terminated at each point in wiring and at each accessory except a lampholder having no exposed-conductive-parts and suspended from such a point

Is a plastic rose attached to the ceiling okay or does it need to be a light fitting with the bulb enclosed? My problem is it will be problematic to access the loft.

 

[Car123]

The 18th edition happened..

Right. My prob is about them accessing the loft which is choker..So a).trying to understand the regs and b) how best to comply..

 

[Car123]

Not correct,
you need to provide the Tennant’s with a report
That is now a legal requirement

If there are dangerous faults listed in the report, you have to get work or further investigation started on that within a month.

So if the electrician is withholding the report, it is there fault that you have no report for the Tennant’s, you have paid for it, you should receive it.

Thank you that's helpful

 

[DPG]

Is a plastic rose attached to the ceiling okay or does it need to be a light fitting with the bulb enclosed? My problem is it will be problematic to access the loft.

Surely at some point you will need to get in the loft. And if the key is lost then why not get the sparky, or a local handyman(when he is there securing the trunking), to fit a new lock?

I wouldn't knacker the chances of getting a safe electrical system for the sake of a lost loft hatch key.

 

[Car123]

Thank you that's helpful

James I am

Surely at some point you will need to get in the loft. And if the key is lost then why not get the sparky, or a local handyman(when he is there securing the trunking), to fit a new lock?

I wouldn't knackered the chances of getting a safe electrical system for the sake of a lost loft hatch key.

It's not so much the key as I do have it, it's just identifying it. It's more the case that the loft is absolutely choker with stuff. Choker.

 

[Baddegg]

James I am

It's not so much the key as I do have it, it's just identifying it. It's more the case that the loft is absolutely choker with stuff. Choker.

I’m getting concerned with what’s up there now! ??

 

[freddo]

It's not so much the key as I do have it, it's just identifying it. It's more the case that the loft is absolutely choker with stuff. Choker.

That's not great, is the loft space designed to take the weight of it being full of stuff? It's not normal for a rented property to have the loft filled with the landlords stuff.