Beyond me !

[brianmoooore]

I didn’t say I had no test gear but I don’t have the kit necessary to do insulation tests etc. I get by using a multimeter.

As in my last post, #11, a multimeter may be sufficient.

 

[Jock from the north]

Thanks for that.
Yes, that’s right.
I hear what you’re saying, I suppose I considered the cable bullet proof as it hasn’t been touched in 10 years that we know of, and there’s been no problems with it.

Used to get faulty outer insulation in purple 16mm Street furniture swas .the water would seep in and eventually sometimes blow the mcb in pillar.youd be surprised how many resin joints are burried under new tarmac.

 

[mainline]

I didn’t say I had no test gear but I don’t have the kit necessary to do insulation tests etc. I get by using a multimeter.

In reply to James :

looks like you may have a damaged cable.
can you measure the resistance between the 3 cores?

You said, “No, I don’t have the equipment or experience for that." James asked if you could measure resistance, he didn't say "insulation resistance. Which a multi meter would be capable of doing. Hence, the confusion.


Which is why I wondered how you managed to get by without any test gear at all.

 

[mainline]

OP did say he wasn't an electrician..... His experience it, looks like, is helping out with repairs rather than new installs.

If he does electrical work especially for other people, then he's an electrician.

 

[Jock from the north]

I don’t have the kit for that.
Cheers

Looks like a job for the heavy brigade

yeh looks like

Looks like a job for the heavy brigade

I take it the cable is buried .not in a duct by any chance..

 

[Jimtelford]

Used to get faulty outer insulation in purple 16mm Street furniture swas .the water would seep in and eventually sometimes blow the mcb in pillar.youd be surprised how many resin joints are burried under new tarmac.

Hi Jock from the North,
Thanks for that, my sister in law is getting a proper electrician in.
Where are you from, I’m from Fife originally.

 

[Jimtelford]

yeh looks like

I take it the cable is buried .not in a duct by any chance..

I haven’t excavated but nothing evident at either end.

 

[Jock from the north]

Hi Jock from the North,
Thanks for that, my sister in law is getting a proper electrician in.
Where are you from, I’m from Fife originally.

Hi Jim I'm from inverurie area currently minus 7 .bloody freezing.hopefully you get it sorted without to much disruption

 

[Jimtelford]

If he does electrical work especially for other people, then he's an electrician.

If you change a tap washer does that make you a plumber, if you charge a car battery does that make you a motor mechanic, if you can add 1+1=2 does that make you a mathematician?

I hope you are clever enough to get the point.

 

[mainline]

If you change a tap washer does that make you a plumber

Yes it does, especially if you do it for other people.

if you charge a car battery does that make you a motor mechanic,

No, it doesn't, but you could be described as one if you tinkered with other people's cars.

if you can add 1+1=2 does that make you a mathematician?

No it doesn't.

I hope you are clever enough to get the point.

I'm clever enough to know what the definition of an electrician is.
ELECTRICIAN meaning: a person who works on and repairs electrical equipment.

How would you describe someone who turns up at peoples places to sort out electrical problems ?

 

[littlespark]

How would you describe someone who turns up at peoples places to sort out electrical problems ?

Helpful?

 

[mainline]

Helpful?

No..... An electrician.

And would still be called an electrician even if it was left in a dangerous state due to lack of knowledge/no test gear or both.

 

[littlespark]

No..... An electrician.

Or a DIYer that can do simple electrical jobs.

The guy isn’t touting himself as a professional…
So there’s no need to criticise him for not having an insulation resistance tester.

 

[mainline]

Or a DIYer that can do simple electrical jobs.

The guy isn’t touting himself as a professional…
So there’s no need to criticise him for not having an insulation resistance tester.

I didn't criticise him for not having an insulation tester or accuse him of touting himself as a professional

I simply asked how he managed without any test gear, after he said he basically didn't have any means or knowledge of measuring resistance.

 

[Tom256]

The term 'Electrician' is not a legally protected status. No criteria exist to define who is and who is not an Electrician. By example even on an ECS Gold Card you could easily have three descriptive terms: eg. Installation Electrician, Registered Electrician, Approved Electrician yet no definition of 'Electrician'.

The EAWR 1989 requires only competence. Yet even that word is not defined and so each must be prepared to demonstrate such to a degree should it all go wrong before a court.

I have seen many with qualifications who are quite frankly useless. I have seen many with Gold cards, industry recognised 'electricans' with so little experience they needed supervision to work.
And that is without touching on the EICR's carried out by the ever increasing number of drive-by electricians with electrical qualifications and trade body membership!

What is refreshing in this case is the OP opens with this quote:

HOWEVER, I AM OUT OF MY DEPTH with this problem.

Now such is no assurance of anything, after all many tackle electrical work without it dawning on them that they are out of their depth! I have seen it on this forum many times in my short time posting.
So, that someone should come on to a public forum and recognise this position is a credit.
An Insulation Resistance Tester does not make an Electrician - competent or otherwise