Boiler case removal, are you competent?

[UNG]

It's a pity that the electrical industry didn't go the way the gas guy's have gone they seem to have everything wrapped up with can't do this and can't do that without being Gas safe. The electrical industry just opened the doors and told everybody it was easy to become competent to do anything with electrics

 

[valleybilly]

And dont forget the £900 flue gas analyzer you'll need to test combustion / temp / etc after the casing has been removed !

 

[Geordie Spark]

And dont forget the £900 flue gas analyzer you'll need to test combustion / temp / etc after the casing has been removed !

Remember the good old days when you looked through the little glass window at the flame picture and just KNEW everything was ok??

 

[chrish_1977]

And the £1100 mft to test the spur the plumber has installed

 

[trbod]

I love this forums , you really cheer me up reading threads like these

 

[snoopydo]

And dont forget the £900 flue gas analyzer you'll need to test combustion / temp / etc after the casing has been removed !

And the £1100 mft to test the spur the plumber has installed

you both need to shop around alittle if thats what you spend.

my FGA cost me about £550 and my MFT about £600. the FGA does cost £120 a year to calibrate tho.

call it a draw!!

 

[snoopydo]

can't say i've ever damaged water pipes when installing cables ( drilled into a couple when there's been no indication that they were there ). i've never run conduit across sink taps or over the top of a bog seat. never borrowed a precision screwdriver off a plumber and then hit it with a hammer to make holes in masonry,never used a blowlamp on plastic water pipes, and never, ever, nicked a plumber's tools. ( on just 1 domestic site i lost a voltstick, a socket tester and a £50 set of klauke terminal drivers. all found in the plumber's van after i kicked off.)

I agree, plenty of plumbers with bad working habbits about. Putting theft in as a discription is abit harsh. Im guess he was a tea leaf regardless of being a plumber LOL

i had an small argument with a sparks last week, after he had drilled through the back of a gas meter box to run his earth bonding on a rewire. Had to walk away......... theres no talking to some.

i guess what im saying is take away the trade and you still have an idiot

 

[trbod]

I agree, plenty of plumbers with bad working habbits about. Putting theft in as a discription is abit harsh. Im guess he was a tea leaf regardless of being a plumber LOL

i had an small argument with a sparks last week, after he had drilled through the back of a gas meter box to run his earth bonding on a rewire. Had to walk away......... theres no talking to some.

i guess what im saying is take away the trade and you still have an idiot

And sparkies are different how ?

 

[snoopydo]

And sparkies are different how ?

a absense of certain chromosomes maybe??

 

[marcusone]

Since the design of most modern condensing boilers use the boiler casing as part of the combustion system, meaning only a gas safe engineer can remove them how many refuse to wire them up/ remove the case without the gas safe engineer present? and i guess more importantly how many realise that they are not allowed to remove the case of alot of these modern appliances??

Relax everyone. Remove case and wire it up. It is the gassafe engineers responsibility to then commission the appliance to manufacturers instructions prior to handing over to the customer.

 

[snoopydo]

Relax everyone. Remove case and wire it up. It is the gassafe engineers responsibility to then commission the appliance to manufacturers instructions prior to handing over to the customer.

slighytly wrong, if the boiler has been wired on a flying lead and left working/connected to the gas supply then it must be commissioned at this stage as required by the gas regulations. So if a sparks comes in after to rewire or fit a stat or external clock for example then the gas engineer may not return to check the appliance as its already commissioned. So never assume it will be checked and take the responsibility as yours to make sure the case is correctly fitted.

 

[marcusone]

Agreed snoopydo. Assumed from OP we were talking about first time connection. Any other time you have to be Gassafe reg to remove and replace the casing if it forms part of the combustion chamber.