bonding house into 2 flats?

[rapidrich]

hi im currently working on a house being converted into 2 flats they will both hav there own db theres going to be 1 water suply in but they will hav seperate gas supply....i will bond to the indevidual gas pipes but do i run bonds from both db's to the 1 water in ?another thing is the gas in runs up the outside wall into the property under the floor boards to a cupboard suplying a boiler so do i bond wer it enters the building (under the floor boards ? or wer it visable in cupboard going to the boiler? thanx

 

[Spudnik]

this place as been totaly gutted can access all areas has no celings are in these property's there is no t off's the gas supplys will only supply the boilers

Hmm, doesnt stop anyone in the future teeing off under the floor tho.

Best do it in the meter box.

 

[rapidrich]

i get you best to be safe than sorry

 

[Mac]

this place as been totaly gutted can access all areas has no celings are in these property's there is no t off's the gas supplys will only supply the boilers

If you have access all areas then you're laughing.I would still take a 10mm to the mains water and gas where it enters the property in case there is a break in continuity from the other flat and still run a bond to the main gas and water

 

[rapidrich]

this is what im going to do then flat upstair 10mm to numer 1 gas in 600 mm frm wer it comes through the wall (entering the property) and 10mm to water in......flat downstairs 10mm to gas supply num 2 as above and 10mm to same water in as the upstairs flat x does this sound ok?

 

[Mac]

this is what im going to do then flat upstair 10mm to numer 1 gas in 600 mm frm wer it comes through the wall (entering the property) and 10mm to water in......flat downstairs 10mm to gas supply num 2 as above and 10mm to same water in as the upstairs flat x does this sound ok?

I think your sorted there mate,go for it.

 

[rapidrich]

cool thanx for the help

 

[grandad]

Agree with Mac, however, i would bond the gas where visible where it comes up through the floor.

"within 600mm or where practicable".

agree.. it needs to be accessable for inspection.if buried under a carpet,or got forbid wooden flooring,you will not be able to prove its bonded correctly on a PIR for example.
bond water main from main earth terminal at incomer. and run seperate earths to water main in flats from own DBs

 

[rapidrich]

so do i bond the gas wer it comes out of the floor boards grandad? this is atleast 4-5 meters from the gas meter outside?

 

[chugs76]

As a niceic qualified supervisor i agree with jason s bond the water and gas where it is visable for furture testing purposes.
600mm is the norm but if you cant achieve this do it as near as possible.

 

[Mac]

As a niceic qualified supervisor i agree with jason s bond the water and gas where it is visable for furture testing purposes.
600mm is the norm but if you cant achieve this do it as near as possible.

Sorry mate i disagree with that,near as possible to what.It should be 600mm from the point of entry into the property.If you can't get near as possible to point of entry then you should take it back to the main supply.Would an Elecsa and Napit supervisor say that too?

 

[Spudnik]

I think what chugs is saying is NOT to bond it under the floor.

Have a read of 544.1.2

Clear as mud

 

[Mac]

I think what chugs is saying is NOT to bond it under the floor.

Have a read of 544.1.2

Clear as mud

I didn't say that.If you can't earth the gas supply 600mm coming into the property as stated in the regs,i would take an earth connection to the meter itself.Sorry mate,my perrogative

 

[rapidrich]

so wat u are saying is bond outside the property ?

 

[slocm3105]

Bond it in the meter cupboard surely? especially as you can access all areas. Problem sorted.

Cheers

 

[rapidrich]

the meter cupboard is out side is that ok ?