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what makes me laugh is most of the scots have the English blood flowing through their blood any way :eek: bloody half breeds .lol. ;)
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bad news for her majesty Marie queen of mc govern.
 
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So Alex salmond wasn’t the only pest in the snp....

Can I just say one more thing. I get a little irked when my English comrades on here say that Scots want to leave the UK, or the Scottish want independence.... No, we don’t!
According to the last referendum, only a minority of Scottish would like independence. Please stop thinking that ALL Scottish, the entire population, want the same thing.
 
have you asked Aberdeen haggnuss what she wants .lol.
Well done, Buzz. I can actually understand what you’re on about. ;)

we all know exactly what she wants. She never shuts up about it. And she’ll keep going on about it until she gets what she wants.
 
Well done, Buzz. I can actually understand what you’re on about. ;)

we all know exactly what she wants. She never shuts up about it. And she’ll keep going on about it until she gets what she wants.

People are surprised that the SNP want independence- are people aware that bears defecate in the woods?

The SNP are a means to an end

As far as Derek McKay yesterday- he should resign from the SNP and the government. He should also resign as a MSP and create a by-election.

This stuff is not on
 
SNP getting on with the day job again
Removing tax breaks from private schools (remember state schools don't get them at all)

Very shortsighted decision... made for reasons of political ideology rather than economic sense. We should be encouraging as many kids into private education as we can !! Each one saves the taxpayer about £6.2k per year on average !! Yet more expense for the good old taxpayer with bottomless pockets !
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The demographic is changing younger people are very pro indy whilst older ones (above 75) are the opposite. The ones at that age are not here for the long term and every year about 40,000 people die in Scotland.
Most of these people are NO voters and the clock is ticking
Schoolboy error... what you've totally overlooked is that as we get older, we get wiser... that's why older people will tend to vote for keeping the Union together. The only way your logic makes sense if is you drastically change the 'age profile' of the voters... i.e. the number of young-sters becomes proportionately higher than the number of older-sters !

The chances are that todays 16 yo kids who vote to break up the union, will grown into older people that understand how it all works and vote to keep it together !
 
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Very shortsighted decision... made for reasons of political ideology rather than economic sense. We should be encouraging as many kids into private education as we can !! Each one saves the taxpayer about £6.2k per year on average !! Yet more expense for the good old taxpayer with bottomless pockets !
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Schoolboy error... what you've totally overlooked is that as we get older, we get wiser... that's why older people will tend to vote for keeping the Union together. The only way your logic makes sense if is you drastically change the 'age profile' of the voters... i.e. the number of young-sters becomes proportionately higher than the number of older-sters !

The chances are that todays 16 yo kids who vote to break up the union, will grown into older people that understand how it all works and vote to keep it together !

I think the Scottish Government are correct about private schools- why should my tax subsidise private schools by giving them vat exemption because they have charitable status.
If people wish to send their kids to private schools then I am happy for them to do so- it has to be an level playing field - all public schools do not have charitable status so why should these private schools be subsidised?

There is only a partial truth in the fact that we get more conservative as we get older.
The numbers compared to last time are vastly different
In 2014 the over 70's were over 70% NO voters, people from 55-65 were NO by a smaller margin, now the over 70's are still no but the 50-60 group are now YES by a small margin, this is a sea change in attitude.
 
QUOTE="baldelectrician, post: 1605027, member: 31290"] I do not agree with unfair wage competition driving wages down but we have that already - look at the shops etc that pay such low wages people need tax credits / universal credit and food banks to help people. The problem there was not the EU but the UK state promoting zero hours contracts and a low wage economy

I Disagree. I worked in London for many years and found the influx of “Eastern European“ labour drove down the wages in many industries due to over flooding of the job market. Employers knew that they could offer or get guys in to do menial and risky jobs. Remarking “If you won’t do it, there’s blokes queuing who will”. At the time I remember speaking with many Eastern Europeans at the job site. They remarked that they were used and abused by Their employers and some paying them next to nothing for extremely long hours. It started becoming a race to the bottom. Now I’m not blaming the predominant East Europeans. But having large influxes of working class labour saturating the job market can only lead to higher competition. In doing so people get desperate and drop rates.

In Australia we have Skill shortage lists And that’s dependant on individual states. Electricians have been removed by 3 states for the first time Due to lack of construction and a slow down in mining. Would EU Britain do the same? I wouldn’t think so... Keep coming in Lads.
 
I think the Scottish Government are correct about private schools- why should my tax subsidise private schools by giving them vat exemption because they have charitable status.
You still don't get it... Each child that goes to a private school SAVES the taxpayer about £6.2k each year because that's roughly the cost of state education (it varies alot over the country, and I really can't be arsed to research what it is in your area)

So... for a child that goes to private school... we SAVE £6.2k... OR we give a private school a VAT advantage of about £2k per year (say £9k per year net with £2k VAT)

So... would you rather spend £6.2k or spend £2k ??? I know what I'd rather do...

So... in theory you pay LESS TAX if a child goes to private school !!
 
You still don't get it... Each child that goes to a private school SAVES the taxpayer about £6.2k each year because that's roughly the cost of state education (it varies alot over the country, and I really can't be arsed to research what it is in your area)

So... for a child that goes to private school... we SAVE £6.2k... OR we give a private school a VAT advantage of about £2k per year (say £9k per year net with £2k VAT)

So... would you rather spend £6.2k or spend £2k ??? I know what I'd rather do...

So... in theory you pay LESS TAX if a child goes to private school !!

I do get it.

I am of the opinion that we should not give a tax relief to wealthy schools. End of

If the kids that went to the pay schools went to a state school that may drive up standards in that state school, win-win there.

I also think we should scrap rates and have a land value tax- different story
 
I do get it.

I am of the opinion that we should not give a tax relief to wealthy schools. End of

If the kids that went to the pay schools went to a state school that may drive up standards in that state school, win-win there.
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No... you STILL don't get it... at best it would be a lose-win ! But... the only way to drive up standards in education is to improve discipline in schools. My sister used to teach in a secondary school... and if she managed 15 mins of teaching in a 60 min lesson... that was a success !!
 
No... you STILL don't get it... at best it would be a lose-win ! But... the only way to drive up standards in education is to improve discipline in schools. My sister used to teach in a secondary school... and if she managed 15 mins of teaching in a 60 min lesson... that was a success !!
there is no discipline. since the cane was abolished.
 
I also think we should scrap rates and have a land value tax- different story
Here we go again...

Right... if you look at what the drivers are for local council expenditure, you'll see that it's mostly people based. I.e. if you have more people, the council's expenditure will go up. It has NOTHING to do with the value of your land. If you are able to park your political ideology to one side for a brief moment, you'll see that the most sensible approach is some sort of headcount based tax or you might call it a poll tax.
 

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