Brexit. We’re out!

[electric al]

Adieu, adios, aud wiedersehen ,ciao etc - or as Groucho Marx would put it, Go ! And never darken my towels ever again

 

[buzzlightyear]

hey pirate will you be buried on you balcony with that flag draped over your coffin or red white and blue or is it a sea one .or you could have vikin one it will a a flood of tommotos in stead of arrows.lol.

 

[JK-Electrical]

hey pirate will you be buried on you balcony with that flag draped over you coffin or red white and blue or is it a sea one .or you could have vikin one it will a a flood of tommotos in stead of arrows.lol.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

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Bad for the environment.
Bad for our children's future.
A sad day.

 

[Midwest]

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Bad for the environment.
Bad for our children's future.
A sad day.

I was a remainer, don’t think it’ll be all that bad. Only time will tell.

Got to look forward, not back.

 

[FatAlan]

07.15 this morning, i watched out of the bedroom window in trepidation, but i need not have worriied.the sun still rose n the east and the darkness faded. phew!

Be careful up there Tel. Boris obviously has the interests of of the north at the forefront of his mind as he's sending all the returnees from China to quarantine in Liverpool!

 

[telectrix]

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Bad for the environment.
Bad for our children's future.
A sad day.

sorry happy, had to give you a disagree. can't see anything bad from Brexit. this morning was loads of panic buyers in aldi, thinking prices would rise. 100 yards down the road, Sainsbury's have reduced fuel by 5p/L. we need to wait and see what happens, but I predict alll goood. and as a footnote.....

well done Boris. to boldly go where no man has gone before, with the guts to see it through.

 

[baldelectrician]

bit of luck the spanish armada will have to go back to fishing it's own waters now. a golden opportunity for pirate to raid without losing sight of his balcony.

Not a chance

People have short memories.
The UK government sold out fishing in 1970's to get better access for financial services, same thing will happen again

If there is one constant it is that Westminster will do what is best for London, the SE of England and the financial markets and to hell with the rest of the UK

That's why as a Scot i want out.

 

[Midwest]

Well we’ll really have to wait until 1st January 2021, to see what the queues at Aldi are like, and the price of fuel at Tesco’s.

I have a snicking suspicion that the EU will play hard ball again, on any trade deal etc.

Other wise they’ll have to deal with a Swiexit, Italiexit, Nexit etc.
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That's why as a Scot i want out.

You could always ask @pirate if you can stay on his balcony. I’m sure he won’t mind.

 

[baldelectrician]

So far, in this thread, I am clearly in the minority.
however, as JK's strapline quote says:
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people things they do not want to hear. ~ George Orwell
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I am sorry we have left, cannot condone the burning of the EU flag when the other members were dignified in their farewell gestures, and my show of friendship will continue to fly from my balcony!
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I agree - people forget what the EU did (or made the UK government do)

• Scrap EU roaming charges
• Bring in the EHIC - giving all EU citizens reciprocal access to health when away in the EEA / EU
• Part time worker rights - holiday pay etc
• Cooling off period for phone contracts and many goods
• Appliances with plugs on them
• ATOL scheme to prevent money loss when a holiday firm goes bust
• Free movement (see hundreds of thousands of UK nationals in Spain)
• Scrap credit card charges
• Stop sites adding on extras (like insurance)

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Well we’ll really have to wait until 1st January 2021, to see what the queues at Aldi are like, and the price of fuel at Tesco’s.

I have a snicking suspicion that the EU will play hard ball again, on any trade deal etc.

Other wise they’ll have to deal with a Swiexit, Italiexit, Nexit etc.
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It's not about hard ball-
If we are in the single market and customs union then we get the benefits (as well as the perceived draw backs)

If we are not in we don't get it

What the UK wants is all the benefits of the EU without the obligations

A scnario:

Local Cricket club

Member : I want to opt out of the rules other members have or I may leave
Club: OK then

Later
Member : I want more opt outs and I want a rebate on my membership fee
Club: OK then

Member : We have voted to leave
OK : Give your notice

Member: Now I am out can I still get the benefits without any commitments?
Club : No- you cannot have your cake and eat it if you are not a member

We went from having the best deal in the EU to going to have a crap Canada + deal (with little or no services agreement)

The UK will still blame the EU anyway- why stop now.

 

[pirate]

If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to sell people thongs they do not want to wear.
Sorry, JK, couldn't resist that!

Anyway, it seems I will have to pull my socks up if I am going to continue supporting the EU...

When I went out for dinner last night, the restaurant owner gave my table a free bottle of wine as a gesture of friendship. One might construe this as a bribe, of course!
Nevertheless, it was consumed in the spirit of cooperation...by me, as the others were driving!

 

[HappyHippyDad]

sorry happy, had to give you a disagree. can't see anything bad from Brexit. this morning was loads of panic buyers in aldi, thinking prices would rise. 100 yards down the road, Sainsbury's have reduced fuel by 5p/L. we need to wait and see what happens, but I predict alll goood. and as a footnote.....

well done Boris. to boldly go where no man has gone before, with the guts to see it through.

That's alright Tel. There's huge disagreement about Brexit (and that's fine) but the main thing is for people to still get on with each other

 

[Midwest]

I agree - people forget what the EU did (or made the UK government do)

• Scrap EU roaming charges
• Bring in the EHIC - giving all EU citizens reciprocal access to health when away in the EEA / EU
• Part time worker rights - holiday pay etc
• Cooling off period for phone contracts and many goods
• Appliances with plugs on them
• ATOL scheme to prevent money loss when a holiday firm goes bust
• Free movement (see hundreds of thousands of UK nationals in Spain)
• Scrap credit card charges
• Stop sites adding on extras (like insurance)

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It's not about hard ball-
If we are in the single market and customs union then we get the benefits (as well as the perceived draw backs)

If we are not in we don't get it

What the UK wants is all the benefits of the EU without the obligations

We went from having the best deal in the EU to going to have a crap Canada + deal (with little or no services agreement)

The UK will still blame the EU anyway- why stop now.

Roughly 50% of our trade is currently with the EU, and 50% ish outside. But trade is a two way thing, so these EU counties we trade with are going to loose out as well, if there's no deal; there will be one eventually.

Of course everyone seeks the best deal, its business. But if we sail off into the sunset, making a nice tidy some (if), then it will be the death knell for the EU. Thats why they will play hard ball.

PS How's your Spanish

 

[telectrix]

@ baldelectrician:

think back.
once upon a time we had a good deal going with new Zealand lamb and butter. once in the ECM that stopped, prices rocketed just to stockpile the products to subsidise french surrender monkeys.

we were promised the removal of tariffs, so we could buy goods from europe. smokes never came down in price to match europe. still cost 5 x as much as (e.g. spain). we never were allowed to buy abroad without paying huge import UK duty.

most of our fishing industry (and that affected Scotland worst) was decimated by allowing the frnch and spanish to fish our waters.

the NHS is swamped by freeloaders from europe courtesy of the eu.

there's more, but i can't be arsed.

 

[pirate]

Tel, I hear what you are saying...
we did once have a great deal on New Zealand lamb, and at the same time our own farmers were slaughtering their sheep and bulldozing them into huge landfill "graves" because we couldn't compete on price.
The Spanish buy our shellfish at a great price, which is good for us, but it's more than we are prepared to pay.
Markets are fickle.
On the up-side, smokes are still much cheaper here in Spain, as is the booze...but I won't be going to Magaluff anytime soon!