Brexit. We’re out!

[Mike Johnson]

If you have a pulse you will have a crush on "7 or 9" only equaled by Jadzia Dax.

 

[Darkwood]

Erasmus was never really threatened Dave, in fact Johnson said himself that we would not come out of Erasmus, he lied.
It’s the same as all the Brexit 'benefits’ not real. Yes of course students can still study in European universities, but it’s now not a right and requires visas and other hoops to jump through. Also they have obviously lost the EU erasmus funding.
Also the argument you make re still being able to study in Europe was always the case with American, Australian and other countries universities.

Sad to say, our students have missed out massively, it's a real shame. I know you disagree with this, we'll have to see how Turing turns out, hopefully well.

Of course again you are right that we were able to study in other nations as part of Erasmus but that was simply a small handful outside of the European Block and not any of the major Nations like Australia, America, Canada etc, Turin allows students to choose their preference globally and then apply for the grant, Erasmus was restricted to mainly European countries and a few neighboring ones with several outside of this like Israel and Egypt.
Erasmus only gave 15,000 in total opportunities and that is the total for all the EU members, Turin allows 35,000 UK students with larger grants of up to £10,000 not the 4k cap of Erasmus.
On the face of it no matter how you look at it, Turin is vastly better and saves 200million for the UK, it doesn't limit where you can study and it allows a greater grant for a vastly larger group.
Unless Turin somehow collapses then I see no really strong argument against it as a comparison.

On your other point, Yes Boris said we wouldn't leave Erasmus but the EU played dirty and was trying to force us to pay huge amounts to access research funds which included erasmus access, they basically were asking us to commit billions over several yrs or they will block access, Boris however simply said fine, we will start our own schemes and research funds... within days the media were chomping on how students were going to lose out here and it's a disaster .... seems another scaremongering tactic that failed and in reality Brexit allowed us to create a better system.

PS if we are on good terms with other nations then a visa is a simple application, not a biggy that it is often made out to be, so what if we now need a visa, we have used the visa system successfully globally for decades, Please expand on all these other hoops we have to leap through now, I constantly here about them but no one seems to be able to tell me what they are.

 

[Midwest]

We're clever than them anyway. The UK invented or discovered, Steam engine, Jet engine, Antibiotics, TV, even the mobile phone apparently. Not sure the last one was such a good thing, mind.

 

[telectrix]

only partial with the jet engine. Germany was first to have a jet aircraft operational. the Arado (think 238 was it's designation)., followed by the Me262.

 

[littlespark]

If you have a pulse you will have a crush on "7 or 9" only equaled by Jadzia Dax.

I suspect the older ones among us still have a thing for Uhuru.

Discovery has too many.
Burnham, Georgio, Tilly... the ginger one, the one with metal on her face, the deadpan one in engineering.....

 

[andyb]

We're clever than them anyway. The UK invented or discovered, Steam engine, Jet engine, Antibiotics, TV, even the mobile phone apparently. Not sure the last one was such a good thing, mind.

Or TV.

 

[FatAlan]

only partial with the jet engine. Germany was first to have a jet aircraft operational. the Arado (think 238 was it's designation)., followed by the Me262.

Wasn’t it Labour that sold our jet engine technology to the Russians back in the 50’s?

 

[Risteard]

First, I don, t do politics, but sorry to see you all go, (that includes those who wanted to and those who did, nt)

Second, when the spuds are ready to go, just give me a shout. I like 'em "floury" by the way!!!

Make sure the skins are still on. I hate it when people peel them!

 

[Mike Johnson]

And then there was Servalan from Blakes Seven.

 

[Mike Johnson]

When the excavations around the Barbican where under way they discovered an infrastructure of copper lands stretching into the far reaches of the London area, the scientist surmised that this was a sophisticated communications network way beyond what was to be believed existed in the London region in those long ago years, not to be outdone the French on examining the catacombs below Norte Dame and discovered the same type of copper lands and concluded that they where way ahead of London in their communication network as they where much deeper, the Irish meanwhile excavated below a Church in Dublin and found nothing, they concluded that they had a mobile phone network before anyone else.

 

[littlespark]

When the excavations around the Barbican where under way they discovered an infrastructure of copper lands stretching into the far reaches of the London area, the scientist surmised that this was a sophisticated communications network way beyond what was to be believed existed in the London region in those long ago years, not to be outdone the French on examining the catacombs below Norte Dame and discovered the same type of copper lands and concluded that they where way ahead of London in their communication network as they where much deeper, the Irish meanwhile excavated below a Church in Dublin and found nothing, they concluded that they had a mobile phone network before anyone else.

This reminds me of the story of NASA spending billions of dollars developing a pen that could write on paper in zero gravity..... The Russians used a pencil.

 

[loz2754]

And then there was Servalan from Blakes Seven.

Phwoar! Yes I remember her very well

 

[Midwest]

only partial with the jet engine. Germany was first to have a jet aircraft operational. the Arado (think 238 was it's designation)., followed by the Me262.

Yeah but they nicked Whittle's design of the engine. Then the Yanks & Ruskies nicked the design.

 

[telectrix]

designs were very different between the Jumo and Whittle's, just same principal.

 

[Deleted account]

Can’t remember who said “standing on the shoulders of giants” Either Stalin or Einstein maybe, or some one else...

all inventors take from there predisessors and expand and improve.

edit: sir Issac Newton. Was close but no cigar, wander who said that one.....