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The EU will provide support grants to whoever is able to demonstrate that they are able to create jobs.


The UK under Thatcher decided to scrap its manufacturing base and instead concentrate on a service industry consisting of call centres and coffee shops.

The other Europeans had the sense to support its industries. Some even kept shares in companies deemed to be of national strategic importance.

The UK believed in free market economics. Outsourcing and yuppies getting rich.

You can't blame the EU for the decline of British manufacturing.

You have abandoned it long ago.


Here's a video for nostalgia
 
And Tony Blair was no better

He decided that every 18 year old should be going to Uni and doing bullshyte degrees such as Media Studies, and Women and gender studies etc

Both Labour and the Conservatives imported Asian and African immigrants by the boat load. At least the Polish and Lithuanians will be integrated within a few generations

And now you have fellas running about looking to use the women's toilets and women called Jack who want to be called they because they're fluid.


Brexit won't solve the UK's problems, it's a lot more serious than that
 
To all the remainers here, do you understand what the Lisbon Treaty and what it means for members come in 2020 and 2022 if we remain, if you view concise version without all the misleading context it is deeply worrying, I challenge you to read it and crucially understand it and still want to be part of the EU ....

Here is a overview of historical comments and views of high figures across the EU and how they are desperate to hide their agenda and let us all sleepwalk into a dictatorship
EU FASCISM EXPOSED: THE LISBON TREATY CONSPIRACY - http://freenations.net/eu-fascism-exposed-the-lisbon-treaty-conspiracy/
 
Some of the stuff posted on here by people with a decent level of education is pretty dam frightening. I mean it really is. Our job sort of gives us a diagnostic orientated brain...or it bloody well should.
Have any of you heard the term echo chamber?
Is it the case that when someone posts up some sort of BS post and gets a few smiley's and like it make it legitimate and then encourages the next more outrageous post lol. For the level of education on here it is quite depressing to red some of the consensus that seems to have been arrived at.
BTW darkwood i don't want to upset a mod/supermod/staff member but that link and your analysis is pure --------. It's outdated, it's got no base in fact and it's all in the realms of "thought"...you couldn't really make it up.
 
You dont have to be educated to vote or have an opinion, thats the whole point of our democracy. Sadly, there is no "educated" view on the merits or demerits of being in or out. So , quite frankly, everyones view is as relevant as the next. This is what our politicians simply do not understand or want to. Studying classics, history or political science is of no use in this debate.
My 56 years on the planet tell me, being in or out is neither here nor there, economically BUT fantastic politically, so every 5 years when the elected reps of our democracy cock it up, i can have my say and it counts.
 
@Diddy

No offense taken, I talk to members as a member and nothing more when involved personally in debate, I take your opinion on board but you have merely stated some are posting BS but you have not shown any examples or any evidence to back your opinion up.
The link I posted is historical, I know that but the quotations of high public figures is true and the point of the posting was to show you the EU has form when it comes to ignoring and misleading it's member states.
I also linked to a press release the EU itself released in Nov18 which actually pulls apart many of the remain scare tactic arguments.
If you disagree with anything I say then counter it with credible evidence and cite the information otherwise I can only take it as your personal opinion which of course I respect but won't really change my views given you brought nothing to the table to back it up.
 
We don't get too much news about it over here but from the little I've seen I'm speechless. I get the impression that this Brexit thing isn't actually going to happen.
 
I've just heard the news the Theresa May is resigning......

I only have two words... Boris Johnson ...

Don't worry (not that you need to over there) whoever is the next Conservative P.M is unlikely to make it to the end of the year.

Once they find out what an impossible job it is to get MP's to agree as a majority, they'll quit.
So will the next 1 or 2.

Roll on NO DEAL exit in October.
 
Please excuse my ignorance on the Brexit thing but even with the MP's continually rejecting the deals put forward will a 'no deal brexit' automatically happen in October regardless?
 
I know exactly how you feel, we've only just got rid of a particularly nasty virus that's been dragging the country down for the last 20 years.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Britain Leave the European Union (Please be polite with other people's views)
 
To all the remainers here, do you understand what the Lisbon Treaty and what it means for members come in 2020 and 2022 if we remain, if you view concise version without all the misleading context it is deeply worrying, I challenge you to read it and crucially understand it and still want to be part of the EU ....

Here is a overview of historical comments and views of high figures across the EU and how they are desperate to hide their agenda and let us all sleepwalk into a dictatorship
EU FASCISM EXPOSED: THE LISBON TREATY CONSPIRACY - http://freenations.net/eu-fascism-exposed-the-lisbon-treaty-conspiracy/

The problem with the Lisbon Treaty, is that the UK was denied a proper open debate on it by Tony Blair........

The mess we are in now can be traced back to Tony Blair

It’s that simple.....
 

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