C/U change with housing Association

[ste_miller21]

right here we go. i changed my c/u at home for a assessment with elecsa (week today). The housing association wasnt happy about me changing the board but since i'd already ripped the old one off the wall before i told them they agreed that as long as it was cert'd with in 30day period it was fine. before i ripped the old C/U out i did a fill inspection and all reading came back fine.......now the problem.....when i came to test the installation today on the sockets (ring) i was gettin a reading (open loops) of 0.32 and 0.34 L1 and Ln......then on the CPC i can getting open loop (no reading).

so...i borrowed a long lead from a friend and connected it to cpc and have found out that there is a brake in the CPC between two sockets (one in the bedroom and the other at the bottom of the stairs) which means a full chase from the socket up the wall to ceiling then through the ceiling under the floor to the socket. which i dont mind doing since i could use it for the assessment as minor works. but when i phoned the housing association they wouldnt give me permission to do the work i wasnt already part P registered...they then contacted there sparky to see when he could come out and sort the problem out, he said he'll be out in a week to sort it (the day of my assessment) and that it is fine to use the sockets in the house they are safe! HOW CAN THEY BE IF THE CPC ISNT PROTECTING PROPERLY? and what kind of electrician can say something is safe and fine to use without looking let alone testing? i wouldnt put my name to anything if i didnt know. and a week is a bit too long. im thinking of just doing the work myself and then if i get in with Elecsa then go into the housing office with the cert and kick off with them. ( some of the sockets have been replaced in the house and cables needed extending the electrician they ave used in the past has just put both lives in 40A connector blocks then run a 6mm cable out the other end of the block. its a joke. To top it off the woman that lives next door over heard me talking about the electrics and informed me that she has 3 double sockets in her house that done work and that its been reported 4times over 2months. WHAT THE HELLS GOING ON!!!! do they think electrics a toy or to be played with or ignored??? if an electric circuit has been designed for a use and demand and it is not working properly then yes is can be dangerous and unsafe and should be looked into ASAP not left.


please correct me if im wrong im not trying to get any ones back up but to me its unsafe and the landloard is not complying with his duties. do you think i'm reading too much into this? am i wrong? should i just do the work?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Glenn I understand what you're saying mate but that's supposedly only in the private letting sector. The rules are usually followed by social housing providers as they're not (supposedly) doing it for profit

well yes it is Trev......and a lot of it is the use of inappropriate accessories/fittings.....such as hard plastic surface boxes at skirting board level...soon get smacked off the wall by furniture legs and the "party animals" that often inhabit these places.......thats when we get the call to come out to fix it.......24 hour party people....dont you just love em..!!!

 

[Jonesy83]

council house i lived in the wiring was upto standard

private landlords are just tite

 

[Jonesy83]

well yes it is Trev......and a lot of it is the use of inappropriate accessories/fittings.....such as hard plastic surface boxes at skirting board level...soon get smacked off the wall by furniture legs and the "party animals" that often inhabit these places.......thats when we get the call to come out to fix it.......24 hour party people....dont you just love em..!!!

i dont do domestic i have a love hate relationship with fork lift drivers 10% useful the rest blind and dumb and very destructive

 

[GLENNSPARK]

well there was this place i worked at once....before i got into sparkying......well there was this foreman called steve who had an armchair...sorry thats forklift truck all to himself.....there were these drains all over the place and they had wooden covers over em......some of which were rotten....now then,..he knew this but still had to drive over em..so the wheels would crash through and one of the other trucks would have to drag it out....all good to go you think yes?...wrong as what would have happened is when he went down the drain it would have smacked off the hydraulic pipes feeding the torque converter on the transmission ....and there would be a trail of oil wherever he went.....until it ran out of oil that is.. then the damn thing would start lurching and stopping......his solution?.....to top it up with oil and carry on driving around on it....thats til the factory ran out of oil to put in it.....then and only then would he either park it up....or leave it wherever it had lurched to a halt and go get the fitter to see to it......mad that place was when i think back about it......

 

[GLENNSPARK]

off now boys n girls as early start tomorrow.....
night all
Glenn.

 

[Geordie Spark]

I find it annoying at times when people use acronyms and expect everyone to know them.

For interest Ring Final Circuit comes 57[SUP]th[/SUP] in the international list of acronyms for RFC. Rugby Football Club is first.
Then of course RFC is also internationally recognised as Radial Final Circuit, which comes in at 65[SUP]th[/SUP] in the listing. So it really is a bad one to use.

I agree.

I've become so fed up with this that I'm going to start a campaign against it.

Anyone interested in joining me is more than welcome.

I'm thinking of calling it the Camapign for the Removal of the Abbreviated Phrase ..............

........... or CRAP for short !!!!

:rofl:

 

[Geordie Spark]

yes i am able to sort this problem out. and i am going so. but my point to it was gettin the green light from the housing association this house is a can of warms.....cable after cable is extended on connector blocks...(which is the fault) ive even found sockets in the house to have the lives of the ring put into a connector block and then extended with a single 6mm cable

point is how much of your own money do you spend sorting out a house someone else owns? when they should do repairs but i know they will never turn up to do it.

Not a single brass farthing bonny lad !!!

I'd be going down the road of forcing them to get your home up to a reasonable standard !!!

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Years ago, I used to live in what is called social housing.
I often used to install extra socket-outlets, and make alterations to the electrical system.
In one place I even went so far as to demolish a couple of walls, and re-plaster the kitchen/diner.
It was only when I came to demolish the walls, that I discovered I was supposed to ask permission first.

 

[Specialist]

well yes it is Trev......and a lot of it is the use of inappropriate accessories/fittings.....such as hard plastic surface boxes at skirting board level...soon get smacked off the wall by furniture legs and the "party animals" that often inhabit these places.......thats when we get the call to come out to fix it.......24 hour party people....dont you just love em..!!!

Yo Man: What you talkin bout ? there don't be nuttin wrong with us 24 hour party animals, just give us some Ganja & beer, then let us alone:sifone::tounge_smile: