Campaign for licensing!

[IQ Electrical]

L-E-C.org.uk - The Licensed Electricians Campaign

Very interesting, you may wish to sign, it's a start at least?

 

[rocker]

I can't see how an NVQ and apprenticeship makes every JIB gold card holder a sure fire, no corner cutting, properly certificating, domestic/commercial electrician.

I still stand by my comment (in fact Rocker's point) that Part P, properly enforced, with a slightly more stringent application process would make for a realistic, functional scheme.

Holding a gold card does not in and of itself guarantee high standards.

Exactly. There's been a hell of a lot of 'gold card holders' on here lately swinging their undoubtably large wangs about, and for what?
Apprenticeship? Most of us have done it
NVQ? Most of have done it
Experience? Most of us have a fair bit of it, we could all do with a bit more
Gold card? I don't have one, but I know a lot of fellas on here do. For some reason, though, most of them don't feel the need to bring it up every twenty five seconds.

As far I can see it's a natural progression if you've been in the game for a few years and work in commercial/industrial or aren't self employed. It's nothing special.

<sorry for going off topic>

 

[Engineer54]

As you well know, especially due to benny calling you 'tony', that reply was aimed at a completely different post - benny was referring to tonys' idea that all JIB certified guys are infallible angels. Your post is irrelevant, seizing an obvious mistake to shoe-horn your opinion in.

Seems everything is irrelevant to you, if it happens not to conform to your way of thinking. He was quoting my post, or did you miss that little point???

And i'm not missing the point at all.... You seem to be under the impression that these present providers and/or the JIB could undertake the the job that a licensing system would. Don't you get it, ....if they wanted to, they would have done that yonks ago... There not interested, it takes money out of the coffers for them.. They are all profit based it ISN'T viable for them to do so.... Jeezus ...this is like pulling teeth!!!!

 

[rocker]

Pulling teeth? I feel like a damn orthodontist.

He OBVIOUSLY pressed 'reply with quote' to your message but intended to reply to tonys. Hence him talking about the card tony was on about, and CALLING YOU TONY. Is your name tony? He probably read all the posts to get all the information, and was a little slapdash in checking which post he was replying to. Big deal. I'm certain you have the intelligence to see his mistake, so why reply in the manner you did?

Whether they are interested or not is irrelevant. WE are the people who pay for the privelige and if we demand that they sort it out, they will have to. But nobody demands they sort it out, they just moan and mither, then someone with more than a passing interest chirps up 'this is the answer to your prayers, a licence! Just like they have in brilliant bloody Australia.' And everyone, like mugs, falls for it.

WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK PART P SCHEMES ISSUE YOU WITH, IF NOT A LICENCE?

You will NEVER get an organisation like this together on a non-profit basis, other than with serious governmeant backing, which will mean serious government intrusion, which will inevitably mean sticking it right between the cheeks.

 

[Engineer54]

''Whether they are interested or not is irrelevant. WE are the people who pay for the privelige and if we demand that they sort it out, they will have to. But nobody demands they sort it out, they just moan and mither, then someone with more than a passing interest chirps up 'this is the answer to your prayers, a licence! Just like they have in brilliant bloody Australia.' And everyone, like mugs, falls for it.''




Then thats your own damn fault isn't it, your paying for something that your not getting, (and never will get either!!) But your trumping up dissent when anyone suggests a way that you will get it!!!

Your licence that you carry around now is basically worthless, it means nothing and has not teeth to back it up, which is what most here it seems wants. They want to be able to protect there investment in becoming an electrician, ....So what do you want??

I doubt there are many mugs here, and this has nothing to do with Aussie or anywhere else, they were only used as examples, and the better one's would be from the US and Canada.

 

[pushrod]

This is like tennis guys

deuce

advantage Rocker

deuce

advantage Engineer

deuce

 

[Phil]

as long as it stays civil or it will be game set and match with the thread

 

[Engineer54]

I didn't reliase it was becoming anything but civil.... We may disagree with each other, but i don't think enough to fall out to any degree .... it is only opinions on a forum when all said and done ....lol!!!

Anyway ...bedtime i think !!!

 

[Phil]

I didn't reliase it was becoming anything but civil.... We may disagree with each other, but i don't think enough to fall out to any degree .... it is only opinions on a forum when all said and done ....lol!!!

Anyway ...bedtime i think !!!

not an implication that it was. just a reply to pushrod thats why we live in a democracy so we can argue and call it a debate

 

[Knobhead]

The sooner part P is kicked out the better. I’m sorry for you lads that have paid up for it.
As a retired industrial electrician I’ve never seen the sense in it!
The plumbers from hell don’t have to follow such regulations.
I don’t enjoy sitting in a trench up to my a*se in water jointing cables that some tw*t plumber dug though.

 

[pushrod]

not an implication that it was. just a reply to pushrod thats why we live in a democracy so we can argue and call it a debate

and when loads of us join in we can call it a mass... no we won't go there.
I CAN NOT BE SERIOUS