Can I make a spur from a fused switch for washing machine

[kkamilski]

Hi guys,

I have to add double 13A socket. The best is to take it from fused switch for a washing machine, because is very close. And the question is, can I take spur from this fused switch? This switch is in radial circuit, and from this switch goes another cable probably for washing machine socket.

 

[littlespark]

you have to be certain this is a radial circuit, from the board.... and not a spur already off the ring final circuit....

A radial circuit is limited at the board.... standard 16 or 20A on 2.5mm cable... You can have any number of branches off it, as the current carrying capacity of the cable is larger than the overcurrent protectiion device....


As long as the double socket is not going to take too much load, then it shouldnt be a problem.

 

[kkamilski]

you have to be certain this is a radial circuit, from the board.... and not a spur already off the ring final circuit....

A radial circuit is limited at the board.... standard 16 or 20A on 2.5mm cable... You can have any number of branches off it, as the current carrying capacity of the cable is larger than the overcurrent protectiion device....


As long as the double socket is not going to take too much load, then it shouldnt be a problem.

 

[kkamilski]

It is this fused switch, and it is connected 2 Live cable and 2 neutral for load, and one live and one neutral goes for supply, so that's why I am not sure that I can make spur from this point or not

 

[DPG]

It is this fused switch, and it is connected 2 Live cable and 2 neutral for load, and one live and one neutral goes for supply, so that's why I am not sure that I can make spur from this point or not

I would get an electrician in to be on the safe side.

 

[littlespark]

Normally, it would be 2 lives and neutrals into the SUPPLY side and 1 out on load…. However you say it’s the other way round?

So it sounds like this is on the ring, and it’s the one outlet…. And someone has connected it back to front.

As a trainee, do you have a voltage tester and can safely check which connections are live when the switch is off?



If this is actually on the rfc, then yes, you can spur off at this point, but you may find it a problem to physically fit it all in the box behind.

 

[kkamilski]

Normally, it would be 2 lives and neutrals into the SUPPLY side and 1 out on load…. However you say it’s the other way round?

So it sounds like this is on the ring, and it’s the one outlet…. And someone has connected it back to front.

As a trainee, do you have a voltage tester and can safely check which connections are live when the switch is off?



If this is actually on the rfc, then yes, you can spur off at this point, but you may find it a problem to physically fit it all in the box behind.

Yes, you are right, there is 2 on supply and one one load. So now I am I doubt and not sure if I can make this spur from this point.

 

[nicebutdim]

Normally, it would be 2 lives and neutrals into the SUPPLY side and 1 out on load…. However you say it’s the other way round?

So it sounds like this is on the ring, and it’s the one outlet…. And someone has connected it back to front.

As a trainee, do you have a voltage tester and can safely check which connections are live when the switch is off?



If this is actually on the rfc, then yes, you can spur off at this point, but you may find it a problem to physically fit it all in the box behind.

Not sure I'd deduce anything from the information available as there are a number of possibilities.

 

[brianmoooore]

This fused spur was obviously fitted for a washing machine. Where does the 'out' cable go now?

 

[littlespark]

This fused spur was obviously fitted for a washing machine. Where does the 'out' cable go now?

Probably, a socket for the washing machine ??

Op wants to add a double socket off the supply side… which is theoretically possible, but not easy with space constraints.


Sometimes it can be handy just to add another double socket next to an appliance switch, whether it’s required or not, just to give some more space for adding a spur… leaving the switch untouched.

 

[brianmoooore]

Ah, I see. The op question is ambiguous, and I took it that he wanted to add a socket for a washing machine from and exiting switch fused spur.
A switch fused spur is a switch fused spur, whatever is printed on the faceplate, so as many sockets as he likes can be added on the 'out' side, limited only by the expected total loading on that spur, up to an area of 20m2, using an old reg.