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Don't know about you but I don't want some heavy handed appliance swapper removing my FCU and disturbing the connections. Of course he'll test the ring end to end values afterwards. Won't he? Daz
 
Oh come on now. Any appliance repairer will be capable of isolating an appliance and using a flex outlet, a cooker connection plate, or a FCU for disconnection of an appliance. If they are having to call an electrician for that they are in the wrong job.
You giving too much credence to these 'engineers'.
 
Don't know about you but I don't want some heavy handed appliance swapper removing my FCU and disturbing the connections. Of course he'll test the ring end to end values afterwards. Won't he? Daz
What anyone does with an installation after I have completed the job is really nothing to do with me.

You giving too much credence to these 'engineers'.
I never called them engineers :D
I have met quite few and most are competent to be doing their job, a large part of which is using fixed wire connections.

Connection plates are there to provide a point to connect to for a competent person, and part of an appliance installer/repairer's job is to connect appliances.
 
Well I've had calls from customers where they've paid companies for delivery and 'installation' of kitchen appliances only to be told that they can't connect as they're not insured or other such excuse - always flex outlet plates or SFCUs.
 
Well I've had calls from customers where they've paid companies for delivery and 'installation' of kitchen appliances only to be told that they can't connect as they're not insured or other such excuse - always flex outlet plates or SFCUs.

Like I said, most are competent. But most is not all.
 
Yes this is fine and always my prefered method.! Its accessible. People worry about things like sink dripping on a socket but have no worries turning there 10kw shower on in a metal bath fed via unearthed extraneous conductive parts.
 
Scottish Regs stipulate isolation switch above counter top for under counter appaliances. I always put Socket outlets behind the appliance fixed to the structure of the building. Regs are to be followed whether a new build or old.
So when the appliance fuse blows in the plug of the appliance... Not your problem I guess. THAT's why they should be in a cupboard as high as reasonably practical on the hinge side. Which fuse blows first, the FCU or plugtop. Answers on a postcard
 
So when the appliance fuse blows in the plug of the appliance... Not your problem I guess. THAT's why they should be in a cupboard as high as reasonably practical on the hinge side. Which fuse blows first, the FCU or plugtop. Answers on a postcard

The egg came first, not the chicken.
 
Perhaps the regulations have changed, in Scotland in the intervening 4 years :)
Simple solution here. This is what kitchen fitters do to get round it.
Get a 4g extension lead. Cut the plug off so no fusing issues. Put flex into a J.B. on ring main. Leave loose under plinth. Now you can plug in the cooker, washing machine, tumble dryer and dishwasher and there's no fear of a fuse blowing anywhere.

Isolation? Just flip off the kick board and unplug!

DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME.
 
Lets face it - if your white goods has just blown a 13A fuse you have to get it out for repair/replacement anyway.

Having the isolation switch accessible allows for the chance it is playing up and you want to shut it off, and also may be part of the manufacturers requirements (some instruction books say to switch off the supply when not in use, etc, not that it happens in practice), and obviously makes testing a bit easier.
 
you could say that a socket on a room below a bathroom is same as one under a kitchen sink. nothing wrong with it and any wet problems that arise are the plumbers fault.
 

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