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I do not think in any way shape or form this is breaking the law! What a ridiculous accusation!

It's not fixed wiring - it's a plug legitimately plugged into an existing socket which is part of the ring mains. This plug then runs to nothing much than a switched wall socket that is used in place of an extension lead. I'll admit I'm the not most experienced person with electrics, however I do basics like wiring a plug, which in turns can easily lead to wiring a unit on the wall. The wires are not fixed in any way, just cable clipped to the wall so it doesn't dangle. The plug is still in the cupboard out of sight and mind, so there's absolutely no danger in doing this. Like I have also stated before, the cupboard is just off the living room, nowhere near any kitchen appliances or the like, and it is only powering small appliances such as phone chargers, and maybe a lamp.

As mentioned above, I'll admit it's not ideal - but in no way is it not safe, nor illegal! It can be easily removed (as simple as unplugging a plug!). Sorry guys - I didn't mean to cause such a fuss but can you please not worry about it anymore! It's cool...
 
If it was an extention lead i would sit on the fence but he's wired it to a socket outlet - fixed installation

Yes i see your point, although i was assuming the "extension" lead was plugged into a socket and then run into fixed socket outlets?

Again, assuming the load will be within 13A.
 
Yes i see your point, although i was assuming the "extension" lead was plugged into a socket and then run into fixed socket outlets?

Again, assuming the load will be within 13A.

That is correct - nothing is fixed so it can't be easily moved. I did not touch the original socket ie. take the faceplate off.
 
That is correct - nothing is fixed so it can't be easily moved. I did not touch the original socket ie. take the faceplate off.
Is the flex cable clipped securely, and is the double socket screwed to the wall, Is the extension lead still meeting its original design certification now it has been cut and altered? has the new installation been checked with any calibrated meters, (earth continuity for example?)
 
What a ridiculous bunch of contradictions:
I do not think in any way shape or form this is breaking the law! What a ridiculous accusation!

It's not fixed wiring - it's a plug legitimately plugged into an existing socket which is part of the ring mains. This plug then runs to nothing much than a switched wall socket that is used in place of an extension lead. I'll admit I'm the not most experienced person with electrics, however I do basics like wiring a plug, which in turns can easily lead to wiring a unit on the wall. The wires are not fixed in any way, just cable clipped to the wall so it doesn't dangle. The plug is still in the cupboard out of sight and mind, so there's absolutely no danger in doing this. Like I have also stated before, the cupboard is just off the living room, nowhere near any kitchen appliances or the like, and it is only powering small appliances such as phone chargers, and maybe a lamp.

As mentioned above, I'll admit it's not ideal - but in no way is it not safe, nor illegal! It can be easily removed (as simple as unplugging a plug!). Sorry guys - I didn't mean to cause such a fuss but can you please not worry about it anymore! It's cool...
So what's the socket and wiring fixed to if it's not "fixed wiring" as you claim? Is 'reference method C' no longer an installation method?
And if you admit you're "not most experienced person with electrics" how does that make you appropriately experienced and competent to do the job?
How do you even know you're not "breaking the law" (which I didn't even suggest) if you don't even know what the law is?
And what qualifies you to make a judgment as to whether or not it's safe? Were you even going to test it? How were you going to test it? As a fixed socket or as an appliance?
I do basics like wiring a plug, which in turns can easily lead to wiring a unit on the wall
Like a consumer unit? Or is that the next step?
 
What a ridiculous bunch of contradictions:

So what's the socket and wiring fixed to if it's not "fixed wiring" as you claim? Is 'reference method C' no longer an installation method?
And if you admit you're "not most experienced person with electrics" how does that make you appropriately experienced and competent to do the job?
How do you even know you're not "breaking the law" (which I didn't even suggest) if you don't even know what the law is?
And what qualifies you to make a judgment as to whether or not it's safe? Were you even going to test it? How were you going to test it? As a fixed socket or as an appliance?

Like a consumer unit? Or is that the next step?

I meant it is not fixed as in it doesn't go inside walls, or anything like that - if it all needs to be taken out for whatever reason, all that needs to be done is to unplug it from the socket...

I don't know what reference method C is...so mute point there...

I'm not saying it does make me experienced and competent to do the job at all. That being said, it's no more difficult than wiring a plug. It's a simple case of cut the cable, and terminating it in the back of a new wall socket...I'm pretty sure you don't need a masters degree to do that! Sorry if I'm stealing work from anyone by trying it myself first...

"A desire to save money is not generally considered a defence for contravening the EAWR (the law)." - ok maybe you didn't say it, but it seem like an excuse for an "I told you so" moment...just saying!

The one I have already done...yes I have tested it, thank you :) I made sure the wires I terminated in the new socket were in the proper terminals, fixed properly and made sure they couldn't be pulled out. I also tested it with a mains tester (the little plug), and un-surprisingly, it worked fine (I say un-surprisingly because like I said - it's not exactly a hard job!).

I meant I can easily wire a plug, and this is no more difficult...
 

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