UK Can't get an electrician to come out for a small job! So help needed!

[Novice]

Hi Due to Covid, I can't get an electrician to come out to fit a single semi flush lamp. So I am going to fit it myself.

So some advice would be very helpful - but if you live local to Stratford Upon Avon and happy to come out for a small job, please let me know.

At the moment there is a standard ceiling rose with what looks like 3 (red) loop wires.

I have looked at some online videos and they say use a Way Go connector for the loop wires - is this correct?

Fixing and assembling I can do - but I want to make sure that I am wiring the electrics properly.

I've attached some photos - is there any tips you can offer?

Thanks in advance!

 

[stevethesparks]

Metal.

It looks like a pretty poorly constructed class 2 fitting to be honest (as most are). Get an electrician in.

 

[Novice]

Thanks for your time - think I'll take your advice and try harder to get an electrician.

It looks like a pretty poorly constructed class 2 fitting to be honest (as most are). Get an electrician in.

 

[SJD]

I'm not convinced My Builder is the best way to find someone; is there nobody local to you who can recommend someone?

 

[Novice]

I'm not convinced My Builder is the best way to find someone; is there nobody local to you who can recommend someone?

I've always found mybuilder really good for other things. But no one wants the job as it is too small.

 

[Deleted account]

Those lights are very poorly designed. They have no provision for earthing because they have supplied a sleaving( the big black one) for one cable which they state makes it double insulated. you have two cables. The permanent live and neutral & the switch live.

No provision has been made for two cables, therefore to fit it the cables would no longer be double insulated. And if it’s not double insulated it needs earthing.

i personally refuse to fit these lights. It’s a cheap way of getting around a design flaw that in fact hasn’t Been rectified.

 

[stevethesparks]

Anyone here near to Stratford Upon Avon ?

 

[westward10]

The biggest problem with that fitting is that it is tenuously Class II. To maintain this Class II then all connections of existing cables need making outside of the enclosure and a flex taken into the terminal enclosure. If you bring connections into the fitting it will need earthing.

 

[Deleted account]

Anyone here near to Stratford Upon Avon ?

I’m not but if I was I wouldnt fit it.

really sorry for customers who buy these lights, because they buy them in good faith thinking old light down new light up.

@Novice you dId nothing wrong in your purchase. You could not possibly know wh3n purchasing the issue with this light. In fact the retailer who sold you this light wouldn’t know.

I would be taking it back and asking for refund If that’s possible.

 

[Novice]

The biggest problem with that fitting is that it is tenuously Class II. To maintain this Class II then all connections of existing cables need making outside of the enclosure and a flex taken into the terminal enclosure. If you bring connections into the fitting it will need earthing.

I did think this! But obviously not being experienced I wasn't sure. Looking at the instructions I couldn't figure out if a flex was needed or not! This is beyond me - I will definitely be employing an electrician. Hope I get one who knows as much as you guys!

 

[Deleted account]

I did think this! But obviously not being experienced I wasn't sure. Looking at the instructions I couldn't figure out if a flex was needed or not! This is beyond me - I will definitely be employing an electrician. Hope I get one who knows as much as you guys!

There is bound to be someone on hear close to you Who can help.

give someone time to respond.


dispite my doom and gloom response to these fittings there is a way around this, but it will be a little bit more work involved than a simple swap.

 

[Novice]

M

I’m not but if I was I wouldnt fit it.

really sorry for customers who buy these lights, because they buy them in good faith thinking old light down new light up.

@Novice you dId nothing wrong in your purchase. You could not possibly know wh3n purchasing the issue with this light. In fact the retailer who sold you this light wouldn’t know.

I would be taking it back and asking for refund If that’s possible.

May just do that - it is John Lewis and they are pretty good at taking things back. When I ordered it they did offer a fitting service for £59 which I didn't think I'd need - but in hindsight I should of just booked it, as I can't get an electrician to come out!!

 

[westward10]

Would have been interesting to see how they would have fitted it to maintain the Class II rating.

 

[Deleted account]

M

May just do that - it is John Lewis and they are pretty good at taking things back. When I ordered it they did offer a fitting service for £59 which I didn't think I'd need - but in hindsight I should of just booked it, as I can't get an electrician to come out!!

That’s a good service. See if you can go with it. Be interesting to see how the retailers sparkies do it.

whatever you do please come back and let us know.

edit @westwood10 you beat me to it.

 

[westward10]

What are the odds of it being non compliant for £45.

 

[Deleted account]

What are the odds of it being non compliant for £45.

What are the odds of it being non compliant for £59.