Chasing cable in a ceiling

[David M]

The same applies to if an electrician gets it wrong, then they cause a fire or kill someone. Like I said it is not difficult to understand, it is very hard to get it wrong. Everything is standardised, all the hard work has been done for us and is all there for everyone to read in the on site guide!

No, installing a cable and an accessory might be quite simple to a competent person. But testing that circuit, interpreting and understanding the results, what they mean and why they are required, requires training and experience. If an electrician makes a mistake then usually that fault is found during the inspect & test and can be rectified before the circuit goes into service. Therefore it is very extremely unlikely a fully qualified experienced electrician will put into service a potentially dangerous electrical installation.

Being a qualified electrician means more than just following the onsite guide to install a cable!

 

[Gigsy]

No, installing a cable and an accessory might be quite simple to a competent person. But testing that circuit, interpreting and understanding the results, what they mean and why they are required, requires training and experience. If an electrician makes a mistake then usually that fault is found during the inspect & test and can be rectified before the circuit goes into service. Therefore it is very extremely unlikely a fully qualified experienced electrician will put into service a potentially dangerous electrical installation.

Being a qualified electrician means more than just following the onsite guide to install a cable!

I have a multi function tester m8, they aint hard to use and the results from the tests are simple to understand. If you wire the circuit correctly there is a very small chance there will be a fault in the circuit, stop trying to scare people.

 

[David M]

I have a multi function tester m8, they aint hard to use and the results from the tests are simple to understand. If you wire the circuit correctly there is a very small chance there will be a fault in the circuit, stop trying to scare people.

My post has nothing to do with scaring people! The post was not a personal attack on you either! You may well be fully competent in electrical installations and also able to use and understand the required tests and equipment, I know nothing about you or your capabilities.
But what I do know is this, the vast majority of folk who may well be competent enough to do a simple socket / light install will not be conversant with the required inspection and testing. They may install the circuit and everything is just tickety boo. Testing is there not only to make sure there is no fault, but also to determine that during normal service or in the event of a fault there is adequate protection. I doubt that your average D.I.Yer will have any clue what this means.

So I will re-iterate!! its not scare mongering, its fact!

So you stop spouting on about Mr D.I.Yer is just fine to go and do an electrical install, because that is bulls..t.

 

[Diddy]

I would leave it Pat, I have actually tried to defend his actions in light of people throwing laws etc at him and he has changed what he has done but he will do this till the cows come home.

Go to bed.

INDEED YOU DID - I was a little peeved by your "Leave it he has changed it attitude" But noticed you are a "Top poster" so backed off and left you too it lol.
What I was trying to add to this thread was the "What if" factor and to open the op's eyes into why these regulations are there - what actually happens if they are not followed AND where and why a court would/could and does use the regs. But anyway I haven't got time to pee about with self important people weather they be op or top posters lol. Peace out im out of the thread as there is just no point........It's hard becoming a top poster innit !!

 

[Darkwood]

May I remind everyone not to lower the tone by having a pop at each other, if you believe a post is offensive then report it, if you disagree with someone then reply in a adult manner and defend your corner without dragging the thread down to cheap attacks of other members like name calling or baiting responses.

If you feel you cannot interact with a particular member without lowering the tone then either block them so you cannot see their posts or just move on, if we keep seeing this of any member then staff will step in (Note the OP is having a break for similar reasons).

Thread closed .. it will be re-opened if the OP returns and decides he wants to continue the discussion.