Cheif Examiners Report, 2391-10, October 2010.

[Guest123]

Seems it's getting harder........

 

[Sintra]

A very good read and a must for anyone going to take the 2391-10

 

[CRAGS]

31% pass rate wow guess I got lucky.

 

[CRAGS]

Nice post Lenny sure this will help out people who are going to sit the 2391 some usefull information in their.

 

[Phil]

nice post thanks mate. our tutor said when we took it that there were three examiners and they all have little things they like to add to the scenarios i guess this one was the one that gets a few with the fault loop drawing that so many can`t grip.

 

[Phil]

31% pass rate wow guess I got lucky.

nothing to do with luck mate you obviously put the time and effort in and worked hard for everything you deserve, well done and you can feel that bit more proud now

 

[Phil]

31% pass rate wow guess I got lucky.

nothing to do with luck mate you obviously put the time and effort in and worked hard for everything you deserve, well done and you can feel that bit more proud now

 

[CRAGS]

Cheers Phil to be honest without trying sound bigheaded I found oct paper easier than the paper I sat in June. The past papers I had definitely helped along with alot of revision. The June paper was definitely a eye-opener and gave me the kick up the --- I needed to get my head in the books after failing that one.

 

[bugsy]

But what percentage of candidates were tutored on the five week wonder course

 

[malcolmsanford]

I for one hope that C&G do not "cop" out and dummy down the exam as seems to be a vogue now.

I'm also not suprised, in fact I'm more suprised that 32% past. You only have to look at questions asked on here from "qualified " electricians regarding testing, certification filling and PIR's to know that wether your a time served electrician or a 5 day wonder standards are very low.

I will say the comment about containment systems seems to be a reflection on the short courses, I would be interested to know just how much teaching is done regarding trunking, conduit, tray and basket work.

The 2392 was introduced as it was noted to be used as a stepping stone for the 2391-10, do anyone know what the pass rate for that is, and would that reflect on how easy/hard that is?

 

[ian.settle1]

Seems it's getting harder........

Or the people taking it are getting dumber

 

[Guest123]

Or the people taking it are getting dumber

I was being P.C Ian.....

 

[Lucas123]

it is a weird one this !!

sometimes i would swap my NVQ level 3 for 2391 as some jobs only require 17th and 2391

i done 4 year apprenticeship with 2330 levels 2 and 3 and 2356 nvq alongside so had both at the end but unless i have 2391 agencies alone dont seem to want to know

but you could theoretically go into a college / training centre do 17th 2382 and 2391 in the space of a month or so and have more of a chane of getting a job than i do yet you are not deemed "qualified" by jib as an electrcican without 2356 nvq 3

 

[swparksey]

it is a weird one this !!
but you could theoretically go into a college / training centre do 17th 2382 and 2391 in the space of a month or so and have more of a chane of getting a job than i do yet you are not deemed "qualified" by jib as an electrcican without 2356 nvq 3

JIB are on their way out and clinging on by the skin of their teeth. I think they are a throwback to the 80's if you ask me, back to when we had an electricity board.
The thing with the NVQ is that as an employer I always look at it as "Not Very Qualified" and unfortunately that acronym has stuck over the years. Also the NVQ does not take into account specialist trades and employers know this. Whist the 2356 is 50% health and safety you can do this on a one day course these days.

Back to a 4 year apprenticeship and and time served would be great but highly unrealistic, I did a 4 year apprenticeship and cant get JIB as it's not a recognised apprenticeship in their eyes, incestuous bull poop IMO. Most reasonable employers like myself will look at your work history, but again 2391 is helpful.

 

[Lucas123]

Back to a 4 year apprenticeship and and time served would be great but highly unrealistic, I did a 4 year apprenticeship and cant get JIB as it's not a recognised apprenticeship in their eyes, incestuous bull poop IMO. Most reasonable employers like myself will look at your work history, but again 2391 is helpful.[/QUOTE]

What did you mean by unrealistic ??

My point was most companies/agencies require jib card and in order to obtain one you need nvq
But yet alot of people i speak to who have 2391 would give their right arm for nvq level 3 because like i say the powers that be dont deem you "qualified" imo i put lot my hard work and studying for 2391 than i did 2356
as they are either not in the trade or cant enroll on one or get the funding