Church Installation PVC? SWA? MICC? Mixed answers.

[Kings]

Hi there i have a job to rewire part of a church and the original is wired in pvc just wanted to no what the trend is? thanks kinger.

 

[malcolmsanford]

If it's 1600 the chances are it will be a listed building. You will have to contact the local council and have a chat with them, they will most likely have a department that deals with listed or graded buildings. Also if i remember right the diocese also have an input into what is done, but that I may be wrong.

 

[Mr.Si]

I dont think there is a bit on pyro anymore.

I did MICC on my course and that was OLCI, so maybe there IS something good about that place lol.
We used Joy Strippers and I had a few goes - it's tough but then it was (and still is) new to me.

I guess with lots of practice, one can be properly good at installing it (I'd love to do more, just to get proficient in it).

I bet it takes AGES though, just like steel conduit... well, much longer.

 

[mogga]

Great to see the Quote you put in was met with thought or rewiring ect as for is it acceptable YES as churches are no differant to any building just that 2011 PVC twe doesnt blend in to the 1600 stone work as well as MICC and given the ornate carved items that will need routed round MICC would be my first choice ( Although Id subby the work to Sintra n Bugsy coz I couldnt make money as Im slower than a week in the jail makin off Pots )
The point of Apprenticeships is to train and give knowlage of the trade but now electricans are being dumbed down and a lot of the "OLD STUFF!" tray trunking conduit is being done by Mates or as some companys call them "Erectors" hence aprencitces hardly ever see Micc Never mind those who do arent given the time or instruction to allow them to learn how to do it correctly

 

[SMB]

Kings...

I would hope such a building was wired 'sympathetically'.

Hide all wiring where atall possible.

Where its not possible to hide the wiring then MICC would be the best way to 'blend-in' electrical requirements in a building which wasn't ment to incorperate wiring when it was originally erected. However, I bet there has been a fair amount of 'destruction' to parts of the building already due to past gas and electrical additions. Try to cause the least amount of damage to the building as you can (use previous cable runs / drilled holes where suitable).

Im very surprised you will not be dealing with 'English Heritage' and be getting some proper guidance in regard to whats required. This is our nations history your dealing with after all. I would make a few enquiries before you start this job. A phone call to 'English Heritage' wouldn't go a miss. This is the only number I have for them, but someone there will point you in the right direction of who to speak to.....02392 856 728.

I would love to be part of such a job.

Good luck with it and I hope it turns out to be a great installation.

All the best.


Edit.....

After a little more thinking ive come to the conclusion that if the wiring can not be seen then conduit is fine, but it mustn't be seen too much, in my opinion. (High-up in the roof etc would be okay I spose).

also......mechanically unprotected pvc/pvc, in positions which couldn't be seen, will probably end-up causing future problems due to vermin.

Rather than shiney metal-clad sockets / accessories (or god forbid white plastic ones), have a look at whats avaliable on the market, something more subtle, less obtrusive, less shiney.

Sympathetic to the building is the key here I think.

 

[SMB]

Buckle-clips anyone.....?

Laugh.

 

[Guest123]

All the FA jobs I've done recently in hospitals etc have been MICC.

Personally really enjoy working with it and standing back at the end appreciating it (sad I know)

 

[Sintra]

Not sad at all mate I do the same. Nothing wrong with admiring a piece of real craftsmanship.


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[ringer]

Just google-image searched 'Joy stripper' to see what you guys are on about. Mistake Tried 'Joi stripper' instead - a bit more relevant, but not much

 

[Andyfm]

If its a C of E church (and, I think Baptist churches), they have their own requirements and used to have their own "regs" book ( I had one given to me by a vicar 20 years ago), and they always wanted everything in pyro. Whether this is still the case though I`m not sure