City & Guilds 2382-----City & Guilds 2377

[benkhowe]

Hi all. Bit of advise required really. I am booking these two exams very shortly. I just wondered anybody sat these recently. What sort of revision did you do or any advice for them thanks.

 

[bigbaddave]

2377 none.. 2382 get a copy of the regs and have a flick through. However its a open book exam so dont worry to much if you know your stuuff

 

[grantr37]

the 2377 is going defunct soon from what I've heard, and the 17th edition is up for another amendment around the summer time, also the 2391 is defunct and replaced...

 

[bigbaddave]

the 2377 is going defunct soon from what I've heard, and the 17th edition is up for another amendment around the summer time, also the 2391 is defunct and replaced...

Another amendment... Another £70 lighter..

I get the impression the OP has allready forked out a considerable amount of money for a lot of electrical course over a short period of time.. Is that the case?

 

[benkhowe]

Yeah I have forked a fair few quid out. Just ordered the new regs that are going to redundant in the summer great......

 

[moose]

2391 getting replaced or just getting 3 smaller ones to replace the main exam....money making again.., but then i already have it.

 

[Toby Kuhnert]

I'm taking the 2382 exam on friday morning, I'm taking it without the course as I'm nearly level 3 2330 and trained to the 17th edition. I have done a few mock papers and they were easy. As long as you know where certain things are in the bgb (special locations, earthing, certain tables etc) its easy.

 

[grantr37]

2391 getting replaced or just getting 3 smaller ones to replace the main exam....money making again.., but then i already have it.

just wait until you go for a job and they ask for the new testing certificates then tell you that the 2391 is obsolete and that everybody else has the new ones....including the european workers....
A spark I know has been working agency and they have already started asking, he also used to work for the council through a contractor that now wants the newest testing certificates along with a 3 day first aid and an enhanced disclosure(which is awkward to obtain)



I looked at the prices etc locally:


the 2394 is £615.00 and 6 days
the 2395 is £615.00 and 5 days
the 2396 is £650.00 and 5 days...

the exam fee of £45.00 is however included in each of the 3 above LOL

on top of the testing and inspection you now need to do the design and verification and also the Initial verification....



I think everybody should phone up at least 3 agencies today and ask if they will pay for the 2394, 2395 and 2396 just to see what they say....they will be wondering what's going on....then ask about the 3 day first aid....



The 3 day first aid course I seen is £600+VAT.....when I phoned in out of curiosity they basically told me that it was aimed at companies paying for certain staff to do it.....when I said that nobody is willing to pay for staff/employees/i.e sparks through it anymore they just went quiet then said "that's not our experience on the matter" at which point I couldn't think of anything to come back with and said ok thanks and put the phone down.....I was annoyed...



The Enhanced Disclosure is only £30.00 but getting an umbrella processing company to do an official application for you is very difficult these days as it was all charities doing them for this token price.....and I have been told by a few, including the one that used to process mine for me that they are now so overloaded with people wanting Enhanced disclosures for work that they cannot cope with the paperwork and all the time taken away from other things...also the government department that issues them has slapped a strict quota for each service user onto them due to being overloaded, so the few allocations/slots that remain are being reserved for genuine charity and education needs with nothing left over when there used to be spare capacity....


I tried the standard disclosure when my enhanced one went out of date only to be told by a few agencies which texted me jobs in financial buildings, banks and hospital buildings doing refurbishment work that it was basically about as valued as toilet paper...

 

[Badged01]

An interesting angle on it Grant and Im sure you wont be far off the mark for those not understanding the old quals in a few years time! Like you Ive got the 'old' ones and would be reluctant to go through the whole process again just to satisfy the unknowledged, or the knowledged wanting to cover their butts, but ultimately I fear with time I may have to if I want work .....

 

[grantr37]

Re: City & Guilds 2382-----City & Guilds 2377

I have just looked and the 2377-11 and 2377-12 are goners, I thought from what I was told that I had until summer but the college I did mine at about 5 years ago is only now doing 2377-22.....

 

[grantr37]

here's the 2 replacement tickets ( at the bottom) complete with newly worded titles in order to make them sound different to employers...and agencies....D'Oh I only ever did PAT as an Extra but it's part of the check list that the agencies almost always ask for...



http://www.cityandguilds.com/Course...cal-equipment-maintenance-and-testing/level-3

 

[moose]

You also want to hear a better view well last time I went looking for a job in November they where more interested in Compex Courses and H&S PassPort and some said if you have 2391 or any other its a bonus, they also wanted you to have cherrypicker and scaffold errection or abrasive wheels and harness courses never seen a employer pay for these yet so why should i pay.. oh yeah i need the money...

From what ive read they are keeping the 2391 and its been split into three parts for easy pass rates(which doesnt matter), but things change which is kinda obvious, I wish you all the best Ill do it again np every little helps i suppose and its a good reminder as you do forget a lot .

 

[markc123]

You also want to hear a better view well last time I went looking for a job in November they where more interested in Compex Courses and H&S PassPort and some said if you have 2391 or any other its a bonus, they also wanted you to have cherrypicker and scaffold errection or abrasive wheels and harness courses never seen a employer pay for these yet so why should i pay.. oh yeah i need the money...

From what ive read they are keeping the 2391 and its been split into three parts for easy pass rates(which doesnt matter), but things change which is kinda obvious, I wish you all the best Ill do it again np every little helps i suppose and its a good reminder as you do forget a lot .

I don't think it is staying is it? And i only thought it was split into the 2394 and 2395...whats the 3rd?

 

[Toby Kuhnert]

It's not staying, its been done away with and replaced with the 2394, 2395 and the other one!! lol

 

[moose]

[h=1]City & Guilds 2392-10 Inspection & Testing Course[/h] This 'Initial' inspection and testing 2392 course has been designed and developed by the electrical industry with City & Guilds. This particular course has been created specifically for Domestic Electrical Installers, existing contractors wishing to up skill and those unfamiliar to inspection and testing. It's a 'must have' if your goal is to register under the domestic installer scheme.
[h=1]City & Guilds 2394 Inspection & Testing Course[/h] The City & Guilds 2394 Initial & Fundamental Inspection & Testing Course is a must have qualification designed specifically for domestic installers and existing contractors looking to upskill. It allows installers to be able to verify (test) and inspect new installations. It also covers inspection & testing of 3 phase installations

City & Guilds 2395 Inspection & Testing Course
This qualification is designed for those experienced or recently trained in electrical installation, who want to enter the profitable area of periodic Inspection and Testing.
This 2395 course teaches candidates to inspect and test existing installations. This will be an invaluable qualification for those looking to supply this service in either a domestic or commercial setting.



[h=1]City & Guilds 2395 Inspection & Testing Course[/h] This qualification is designed for those experienced or recently trained in electrical installation, who want to enter the profitable area of periodic Inspection and Testing.
This 2395 course teaches candidates to inspect and test existing installations. This will be an invaluable qualification for those looking to supply this service in either a domestic or commercial setting