Connectors behind lights & tape

[revolt3k]

Whats your thoughts when you see this behind fitting's guys

 

[Mac]

I like these personally Click Flow 16 Amp Push-in Connector The Hager downlighter Junction Boxes are decent also.

They look pretty good.Usually use 17th edition J/B's,but only on downlighters.It's all about profit at the end of the day thou

 

[sparks1234]

The JB's are obviously the best way of doing it, but you have a joist just above which will impede you getting a JB in, you could enlarge the hole to push the JB in but then this has 2 effects, 1 you have then got into making good and also if you have to take that much away you possible do not have enough for the ceiling mounting plate to be screwed against. With regard to the crimp suggestion, I agree that would be fine if you have 1 twin and earth cable coming in, but if it is 3-plated, not such a good idea. I think the tape was always installed as a means of protection should there be a spark from loose connection etc

 

[beaver74]

although i would argue that if the manifacturers have suggested this type of connection the regs do give you permition to follow these just as you can install an item with no i.p ratting if suggested in litriture

 

[spark1]

The JB's are obviously the best way of doing it, but you have a joist just above which will impede you getting a JB in, you could enlarge the hole to push the JB in but then this has 2 effects, 1 you have then got into making good and also if you have to take that much away you possible do not have enough for the ceiling mounting plate to be screwed against. With regard to the crimp suggestion, I agree that would be fine if you have 1 twin and earth cable coming in, but if it is 3-plated, not such a good idea. I think the tape was always installed as a means of protection should there be a spark from loose connection etc

Agree with all of the above.........a good summing up of the practicalities of the problem



spark1

 

[claret73]

I came across same thing only a couple of weeks ago...
The flush fittings are a nightmare! The one ceiling we were putting the lights up to had 2 Twin Skins of Plasterboard. To me it did seem ropey! But like you guys say no different to alot of the lights I see that are fitted...we channeled out a space in the board big enough for the connector block to sit in & pushed up the fitting so that it was flush...
Just like that Pic!!! I suppose the Crimp solution would be less intrusion to ceiling & less chance of the connections coming loose from the block with all the struggle of pushing it up...

 

[andyd55]

would crimps would you use? Piccy if possible?

 

[revolt3k]

Like somone said, if its 1 T&E yes i would agree crimps would be good but how many lights do you see with just one cable?
If you use a joint box and make the hole bigger once you have made good the hole and painted it again how will access for inspection and test be possible as all connections need to be accesable for inspection once done.

I think we should design a new way for the makers of lights to do better connections behind lights. I want 60% of the profits tho