Conservatory lighting

[dannyG85]

Hi, got a job to connect up some new spotlights in a conservatory. Roof has been replaced and plaster boarded. I'm assuming insulation has also be installed.

Originally the client purchased Enlite Spryte non-fire rated IP44 LED downlights, however I thought that they should be fire rated as they are being recessed into the ceiling, so after a bit of research I found an equivalent model by Lap (CosmoEco - link below). Have been told space is restricted so these were the shallowest ones I could find.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-cosm...0v/6570x#product_additional_details_container

These are fire rated but only have an IP rating of IP20. Would this be suitable in a conservatory? Obviously it isn't a bathroom so usually this IP rating wouldn't usually be an issue I would assume, but as its a conservatory roof could that be a problem?

 

[DPG]

Why do they need to be fire rated?

 

[Wilko]

Hi - the IP rating is normally from the front face as none of them expect to have water splashed on them from behind .

 

[dannyG85]

To be honest, I just assumed they would for safety purposes due to insulation in ceiling and to stop the spread of a fire should it occur. It would of been my inclination to purchase fire rated downlights if I'd designed the job.

If its not a requirement then the original downlights they purchased should be fine, however also interested to know if there would be any issues with IP20 lights in a conservatory?

 

[dannyG85]

Hi - the IP rating is normally from the front face as none of them expect to have water splashed on them from behind .

Yeah that's a good point, just overthinking it!

Thanks​

 

[Wilko]

Maybe take a look at JCC V50 which are quite shallow fittings
JCC V50 Colour Selectable Fixed Fire-rated LED Downlight 7W 650lm IP65 White - https://www.electrical2go.co.uk/jcc-v50-colour-selectable-fixed-fire-rated-led-downlight-7w-650lm-ip65-white.html

 

[dannyG85]

Maybe take a look at JCC V50 which are quite shallow fittings
JCC V50 Colour Selectable Fixed Fire-rated LED Downlight 7W 650lm IP65 White - https://www.electrical2go.co.uk/jcc-v50-colour-selectable-fixed-fire-rated-led-downlight-7w-650lm-ip65-white.html

The job is tomorrow and the client has got the LAP downlights now, so will go with them.

Will keep those JCC ones in mind, look impressive.

Thanks

 

[Squid]

You need a better class of customer, LAP fittings, tsk ;o)))))

 

[dannyG85]

You need a better class of customer, LAP fittings, tsk ;o)))))

Haha, yeah wouldn't be my 1st choice but needs must!

 

[MJPD29]

It is worrying that you don't know this information to begin with but are still going ahead with the job. Also LAP is probably the worst readily available brand on the market currently

 

[Squid]

Fit a couple of Velux roof lights...........

 

[Squid]

It is worrying that you don't know this information to begin with but are still going ahead with the job. Also LAP is probably the worst readily available brand on the market currently

Don't worry in a weeks time he will have finished his Electrical Trainee course..........

Only kidding ;o))))

 

[dannyG85]

It is worrying that you don't know this information to begin with but are still going ahead with the job. Also LAP is probably the worst readily available brand on the market currently

Very helpful mate, thanks.

At the end of the day I'm fitting fire rated downlights which I think is sensible and gives me peace of mind.

Fitted LAP before and never had a problem. I acknowledge there's better brands available but it is what it is.

 

[dannyG85]

Don't worry in a weeks time he will have finished his Electrical Trainee course..........

Only kidding ;o))))

Haha, yeah I'll get there soon.....hopefully!

 

[-Matt]

At the end of the day I'm fitting fire rated downlights which I think is sensible and gives me peace of mind.

Out of interest, if a fire was to break out in the conservatory, what do you anticipate your fire rated Downlights will achieve?

Unless there are some mice living up there to save.....