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[Shakey]

What about conclusion jumpers that is pure madness

And the fact that you are gay?

Oh wait that would be me jumping to conclusions about your sexuality and you cant be gay just because you post like one

Seriously your a moron i said i done a 5 day course and now i have not been in the industry for more than 5 days ?

Its people like you that give US (yes i am qualified electrician so i can safely say that) a bad rep you think that i am not as good as you because i have done a 5 day course.

I have a city and guids level 1,2,3 (and a btech national) in electronic system which is by far more complex than electrical installations.

But unfortunately fixing electronic equipment pays nothing and sitting at a work bench all day is boring.

bollox i cant even be ***** to argue... this is why you give us a bad name because no one is good enough for you city and guilds muppets!

well said fella

i teach the EAL domestic installers course

people always go an about '5 day wonders'

We actually run the course over 7 days, and many of my students have been in the industry for donkeys.

but of course they are 'just' domestic installers and know nowt

my mate is the area engineer for the NIC

he has told me that if he gets problems doing annual assessments, it is always Approved Contractors, guys who turn up with two IR meters to do an installation, guys who dont even own a regs book, but with Domestic I Installers he is quite happy

tells you something dont it!

 

[stevie h]

londonelec[/left];10654]What about conclusion jumpers that is pure madness

And the fact that you are gay?

Oh wait that would be me jumping to conclusions about your sexuality and you cant be gay just because you post like one

Seriously your a moron i said i do ne a 5 day course and now i have not been in the industry for more than 5 days ?

Its people like you that give US (yes i am qualified electrician so i can safely say that) a bad rep you think that i am not as good as you because i have done a 5 day course.

I have a city and

guids​

level 1,2,3 (and a

btech​

national) in electronic system which is by far more complex than electrical installations.

But unfortunately fixing electronic equipment pays nothing and sitting at a work bench all day is boring.

bollox​

i cant even be arsed to argue... this is why you give us a bad name because no one is good enough for you city and guilds

muppets​

!

gay , moron ,muppet ! your so witty and sharp i nearly never replied to this thread in case you gave me another tongue lashing

I apologize for jumping to conclusions about your circumstances , but still think the 5 day course is madness , if your average bathroom fitter ,diy,er can go on a 5 day NIC course and then register as a part p qualified electrician , why bother serving your time ????? its not about qualifications , as some of the best sparks out there have very few , i have the bare minimum myself ,its just the fact that in theory your average Joe public can become a fully registered NIC part p registered electrician in about a month , surely even you can see that this something that needs to be looked at .. maybe this course should only be for people with experience but lacking the required certs , but that's not the case at the training center local to me , any one can sign up, and as i was told by one of the guys running the course " everyone passes" which implies that it is very easy .
This is my local tech
Electrical Training Courses, New Entrant Gas, Electrics Course - Liverp
Electrical Training Courses, New Entrant Gas, Electrics Course - Liverpool UK

 

[Shakey]

gay , moron ,muppet ! your so witty and sharp i nearly never replied to this thread in case you gave me another tongue lashing
I apologize for jumping to conclusions about your circumstances , but still think the 5 day course is madness , if your average bathroom fitter ,diy,er can go on a 5 day NIC course and then register as a part p qualified electrician , why bother serving your time ????? its not about qualifications , as some of the best sparks out there have very few , i have the bare minimum myself ,its just the fact that in theory your average Joe public can become a fully registered NIC part p registered electrician in about a month , surely even you can see that this something that needs to be looked at .. maybe this course should only be for people with experience but lacking the required certs , but that's not the case at the training center local to me , any one can sign up, and as i was told by one of the guys running the course " everyone passes" which implies that it is very easy .
This is my local tech
Electrical Training Courses, New Entrant Gas, Electrics Course - Liverpool UK

well i am the training manager for a private training company, and i can assure you not everyone passes with me!

and we certainly dont let 'anyone' straight onto the EAL DEI course either - there would be no point, they would have no chance!

 

[londonelec]

gay , moron ,muppet ! your so witty and sharp i nearly never replied to this thread in case you gave me another tongue lashing

Its your attitude to someone that has done a 5 day course that Písses me off.

You judge without knowing, so what if someone has done a 5 day course they might of been installing for years but never had the opportunity to take a long course.

You will find that some people can learn things faster than others and 5 days solid is yes very quick but does not mean this person cannot do a new installation.

FFS seriously unless they have done some major **** up its not rocket science and the testing is also very easy... i mean ohms law is probably as deep as electrical installs go.

If you follow the onsite guide, partm, and part L and have the 16th/17th (now with you) then how can you go wrong.

Looking at electricians and the way they behave makes me chuckle because they honestly believe that they are the best at what they do and there is nothing higher than there trade and to be honest you can cover the maths and theory in 5 days no problem.

Its the Experience that is very important and should not be overlooked its the way that electricians can pull more than one cable at a time or the thinking / planing of the install for me that i am learning.

If you make a new install and do it wrong then i am sorry i will agree with you then they should leave it alone but i know that most of the time when testing comes its not the electrician its the chippies, labourers, bodgers that have put a screw or nail through you cable that will be the problem.

Periodic is another subject but new installs everything should be perfect its new and testing it is a piece of **** and 5 days you could teach this.

PS sorry about the names i was just making a witty point

 

[greekislandlover]

Meanwhile, back to the thread!

Earlier on, paulm asked a question that got overlooked:-

so what your saying shakey is no smoke alarms on the same rcd as sockets which i understand for obvious reasons even though smoke alarms have battery back up,so how do you get on if your fitting a dual rcd board (which seems to be the norm given the price of rcbos) if you have two rings up and down ,you are going to have 1 ring on each rcd so how can you comply with no smokes on same rcd as sockets.

 

[Shakey]

Meanwhile, back to the thread!

Earlier on, paulm asked a question that got overlooked:-

as has already been said, then you have a seperate RCBo for the smokes

if the smokes are off the lights, then the lights may have to be on an RCBO

or just do the smokes in SWA......