Cooker switches with integral socket - Wiring of...

[SimesT]

I haven't wired a cooker switch with a socket before. Do I connect the socket off the 6mm cable for the switch (all on 32A MCBO) or should I take a separate supply for the socket eg off a ring as a spur. No useful instructions on the handy bit of paper with it (do they every say anything that tells you anything??)

Thanks :smiley2:

 

[SimesT]

Well, I have to say, I was expecting a bit more help with this. I know about the diverstiy for cookers (although I can see times when everything on a cooker might be on - so might err on the side of caution there anyway). Would I need a separate feed to the socket, (either dedicated or a spur off a ring)?
Thanks for comprehending thecquestion Assegayer!

 

[Dave OCD]

There used to be a quite commonly used vertical 2 gang cooker switch with single socket at the bottom [Nettle ?] and the feed to the socket was actually single cores on the back of it as the socket had completely seperate terminals, I've changed a couple that have gone wrong and with the flush wall box being vertical the only easy option is a 2 gang 45a DP switch so the socket is no more.

 

[SimesT]

If I apply diversity for the cooker then, there is another 5A if there is an integral socket. I get that. If it's integral to the body of the sw but not integrally wired, surely it can be wired in parallel with the same size cable? Still this feels wrong to me, so I'd still appreciate some useful wisdom!

 

[DuaneMHunt1976]

Im a bit worried to say any thing here as i can see you are getting a bit ****ed off with things.

I dont like the Cooker Diversity myself .. i dont even like ONE DIRECTION so NAA to you ONE DIRECTION FANS..

Do note i am Guessing a lot of the time what the Question is asking and what it might be asking..
If i turn off the cooker to work on it, could i get a shock. If the socket side of the Cooker/Socket has another circuit coming in to it .. then yes..
So The Cooker MCB controls the electricity within the Cooker/Socket, (NB Ive not done one of these) if the Socket needs wiring up then you can just Link it over, in ANY dam size you want from 10mm - 2.5mm to the said socket.

 

[SimesT]

Ta Duane, that makes sense to me. Cant really understand why socket has separate terminals in that case!
Perhaps its just easier to manufacture...

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Was not aware that you could get Cooker switch where the integral socket can be wired separately to the cooker.
However, it may be that such an item has been produced to allow the socket to be provided with RCD protection without have to provide RCD protection for the cooker?

 

[HandySparks]

Would you mind putting up a photo of the back of the cooker switch in question?

 

[Midwest]

Well, I have to say, I was expecting a bit more help with this. I know about the diverstiy for cookers (although I can see times when everything on a cooker might be on - so might err on the side of caution there anyway). Would I need a separate feed to the socket, (either dedicated or a spur off a ring)?
Thanks for comprehending thecquestion Assegayer!

The thing is, all the plate design DP cooker switches (with socket outlet) members have fitted, only have one set of IN terminals (L,N,E) and one set of LOAD terminals (L,N,E), but I'm prepared to be persuaded otherwise. Or if it some kind of grid assembly? Handysparks's is a good suggestion. My post #3, is why aren't you asking your properly qualified colleague?

 

[SimesT]

Trying to upload a pics...

 

[Darkwood]

Trying to upload a pics...

Try going advanced option when posting and seeing if you can get your picture on that way.

 

[SimesT]

Errmm... Not sure if the pics will be there. Just how do you put a photo in a reply? I've tried pasting it in so see if that works!

 

[Darkwood]

Errmm... Not sure if the pics will be there. Just how do you put a photo in a reply? I've tried pasting it in so see if that works!

Save you pic you want in a file, when you want a pic in a post you click on the box with a tree and click on the 'choose file' while on the from computer option. Search for file then double click it which should take you back to the choose file box - click upload file once only and allow time for it to upload.... it should then revert back to your post with pic in it.

 

[egg67]

Just give us make and model, we can then look it up

 

[SimesT]

Can't find a way to upload a picture. the icon just asks for a URL... Pasting doesn't work either!
:computer:

 

[SimesT]

Thanks for your patience! Its a Click Mode:
[h=1]Scolmore Click Mode 45A DP Cooker Control Unit Switch Socket White.[/h]Came from CEF. Separate phase an neutral terminals on for the socket. Shared earth bar.