Cowboy Electrician or not?

[killerking]

Hi

I am seeking some advise not sure if i you can help or point me in the right direction,

I have had some electrical work done in my council home, the council stated they need an niceic contractor to carry out the works and to provide a electrical installtion cert with part p.

I used someone from mybuilder.com who claims he his niceic reg and has his part p,the work has been completed, he said he will send me the certs through the post but after reading forums etc i getting a bit worried as he was supposed to provide me with these certs there and then, so i getting worried now as 1. is the work safe and 2.i need this certs to provide to the local council to pass the work off, i havent had anything through the post as yet and i have send a message on mybuilder.com, what shall i do is there anyway to check if this person is niceic registered?
Thanks

 

[tonys]

If i do not get this certs, what are my options in obtaining these 2 certs?

If the person who carried out the work is registered with a scheme, then contact the scheme, but if the person is not registered then you won't be issued with a part p compliance certificate but you can ask for a installation certificate.

 

[DurhamSparky]

work not done to Part P may invalidate your insurance if electrical work is cause of fire!
you can be reasonably be prosecuted by building control for non complience
your council could insist you pay them for inspection costing hundreds of pounds!

 

[rocker]

You should get 2 certs as you say, normally the first one you get on full payment, and the second you get through the post a few weeks later. There's nothing to say you HAVE to have the 1st cert on the day, he may just put the details into the lappy and print up a good copy when he gets home, for example. Althogh having the cert on the day is the norm.

I'm getting the impression it's only been a day nor two since the work was done, if that's the case I'd leave it a while longer, and also try contacting him again before getting building control involved.

 

[bugsy]

NIC website niceic.org or phone them ( there based in Houghton Regis ( Dunstable ) 0870 0130382 / 01582 539000 give them his trading title and post code and they will tell you if he is registered or not.

 

[sparks1234]

If you write a certificate out of a pad then OK you could be issued with a cert but many of use use computers to to print cefrtificates so carrying a computer and printer etc in the van as well as everything else gets beyond a joke. I always do mine in the office, save a copy for myself, register the job and produce the invoice all at the same time.

 

[tonys]

Why did you not use an electrician who was on a scheme register ? or there's electricians who have their details on this forum. was you trying to get the job done cheaply ?

 

[DurhamSparky]

after chatting to the OP, he had some building work done and the electrics was in with the price of the structural work,

it may sufice that the building company who is NOT registered with NIC use a subby mate who may be!! (you know the craic lol)

any way the likes of my builder "erghhhhh" are endorsed by National TV adverts so we dont have a leg to stand on when we call them cowboys! thats all the public see!

TV AD = Proper Job
Newspaper cutting = Cowboy

how wrong they are!

 

[killerking]

after chatting to the OP, he had some building work done and the electrics was in with the price of the structural work,

it may sufice that the building company who is NOT registered with NIC use a subby mate who may be!! (you know the craic lol)

any way the likes of my builder "erghhhhh" are endorsed by National TV adverts so we dont have a leg to stand on when we call them cowboys! thats all the public see!

TV AD = Proper Job
Newspaper cutting = Cowboy

how wrong they are!

After being up all night worried i decided to to inspect the CU, i have had previous experience in electrics mainly on 3 phase when i left school, after inspected the CU 4 earth wires had not been connected 2 snapped and 2 loose so not a happy chappie.
Have redone them now, if this guy is supposed to be niceic no way would 4 earth wires be out.
He advertises niceic and gas safe registered on his profile, but they must be sub contractors he uses, he is just a builder. As the CU was moved up on a adjecent wall and with him doing the buiding work i think he didnt even cut the wires back just put the slack in the celing.
For my own peace of mind (i have 4 children to think of) i will get the electrics done again this time i will ask for all relevent paperwork and insurance before any work is to be carried out.
If i do get the certs of this fella no doubt it will be of the niceic contractor he uses, which is no good for me at all, nt to mention illegal.

 

[mattyevz]

Shocking, if he done all tests correctly then there wouldnt be loose cables.

 

[DurhamSparky]

killerking

thanks for that, did not want to give too much away on open forum,
you still want me to ring him.??

 

[tony mc]

If you found obvious faults with just a quick look I would seriously have it tested to make sure nothing has been bodged or left unsafe no need to say how dangerous it is not to connect earths.

 

[killerking]

they are based in cannock, some one kindly (something i should have done before hand) has done a search on the name and address for niceic and part p the search comes back with nothing

 

[killerking]

killerking

thanks for that, did not want to give too much away on open forum,
you still want me to ring him.??

not yet m8, i emailed him last night he said i needed eic cert and part p, he replied no problem they will be with me sat/mon via post, so will be interesting to see what i receive if anything!
He wont be getting away with this!

 

[Johnny-G]

I'm not sure when the work was carried out but he has 28 days to supply the certs anyway.

 

[killerking]

Hello guys i have 3 electricians coming out for a quote that i have phoned this evening, all of them have given me there Niceic numbers which i have checked online and all seem fine, what else should i be asking these guys? should i be asking if they have Public liability Insurance ? sorry if this sounds n00bie just want to make sure i dont fall into the same trap.