Cowboy Electricians and Installation Certificates

[J L]

My uncle had his house re-wired but received no EIC or indeed any paperwork a few years ago, I want to know the best way I can help fix the situation, the rouge sparkies left no trace of who they were so he is left with this potentially dangerous situation. I am a new qualified sparkie worked with electrics for years and now qualified to 17th edition and have full scope Stroma certification for domestic dwellings and I want to help him, so legally I can do the work but what is recommeneded way forward?, do I carry out a EICR to certify the installtion is safe?, is this the best way to generate the paperwork for this installtion to prove it is safe?

 

[sparksburnout]

These types of post always amuse me, it's like wading around in treacle. For a start why don't you contact the council and find out if the job was ever notified? If it was then maybe the certificate has just got lost, perhaps the council could check back via the certifying body. If it never was then maybe it is dodgy, so, as it is your uncle, you could give it a coat of looking at and check it out, being as you are qualified to do so. If you are a member of Stroma then I believe you need to have a decent set of electrical quals now, so it might also be helpful to update you profile with them.

 

[Spoon]

it's like wading around in treacle

You have a strange hobby.

so it might also be helpful to update you profile with them.

I haven't added mine. See no point. Don't want to either.

The OP I think has long gone now. Shame really...
We do seem to be good at doing this though....
Maybe we need to take more happy pills and be more tolerant with some posts.

 

[sparksburnout]

You have a strange hobby.


I haven't added mine. See no point. Don't want to either.

The OP I think has long gone now. Shame really...
We do seem to be good at doing this though....
Maybe we need to take more happy pills and be more tolerant with some posts.

***k em. Sorts the men out from the -------. They always come in here, raping and pillaging, like a load of Vikings.

 

[Octopus]

Part P should have been the registered license scheme where whoever you sign up issues a photo ID card with expiry date as part of the scheme membership

Stroma insisted on issueing me with a photo ID card this year - needless to say I don't carry it.

If anybody wants to see my photo ID, they can see my driving licence

 

[lurch]

We all get asked to carry out eicrs for properties that have no certification. The history of this we know not. And we ask not. On completing said eicr we state concealed wiring is not inspected. If it passes we stick a label on it saying test again in ten years.

Yes an eicr is a good place to start.

 

[l4urence]

Really interesting reading through this entire thread. There is some good helpful advice and some unhelpful comments. The OP may well have left but he came here asking for advice, thoughts and suggestions; the whole point of this forum. It’s easy to play the experience card and put people down and belittle, perhaps that’s why people end up buying from B&Q and DIY. We can help more by educating and giving the best advice we can, credit to those that did for this thread.

 

[ipf]

Really interesting reading through this entire thread. There is some good helpful advice and some unhelpful comments. The OP may well have left but he came here asking for advice, thoughts and suggestions; the whole point of this forum. It’s easy to play the experience card and put people down and belittle, perhaps that’s why people end up buying from B&Q and DIY. We can help more by educating and giving the best advice we can, credit to those that did for this thread.

Bowlocks!....they do it because it's cheaper.

If people made it clear what their experience is, before jumping in with both feet, it might stop others presuming.....

 

[l4urence]

Bowlocks!....they do it because it's cheaper.

If people made it clear what their experience is, before jumping in with both feet, it might stop others presuming.....

You are probably right about B&Q, I stand corrected

I didn’t feel that the OP jumped in with both feet in his first post but there was a lot of presuming... maybe I’m saying it’s the presuming / assuming that’s the problem. Lesson from decades ago was never assume, it makes an --- out of U and ME. The lesson kinda stuck. In this line of work we can never assume anything. Can we!

 

[ipf]

You are probably right about B&Q, I stand corrected

I didn’t feel that the OP jumped in with both feet in his first post but there was a lot of presuming... maybe I’m saying it’s the presuming / assuming that’s the problem. Lesson from decades ago was never assume, it makes an --- out of U and ME. The lesson kinda stuck. In this line of work we can never assume anything. Can we!

Assuming on site and on a forum are entirely different.
On site, the facts are in front of you, assumptions, on some occasions, and decisions are made based upon the evidence available.

If opinions are asked, answers can only be given based on the evidence given. The assumptions will occur as a result,
inexperience included.