Death penalty

[trev]

That last one you replied to wasn't directed at you Roger it was for Tiny who mentioned putting a bullet in Huntley's head. I've replied with my view on the deterrent value mate, I really don't think it is one for the reasons I've stated. Look at how well publicised the Texan use of the death penalty is, people still get sent to death row though. I'll accept your point about how any statistic on this can be manipulated because it can never be proved. As you say, if something doesn't happen how can you quantify it in any statistic
Which of your questions have I dodged? I'll happily answer them.

 

[Tiny Spark]

You have to understand for any criminal conviction ALL evidence has to be rock solid. Even stealing a 10p mixup out of a shop has to be proven beyond all reasonable doubt, not just capital offences

Rock solid

Sorry is that a joke or do you actually believe that?

Not sure about ireland but our Justice system is pretty screwed up.

You regularly have people quite literally getting away with murder, And sadly you still get people convicted and sent down for nothing more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

My previously mentioned friend being a prime example.

 

[Tiny Spark]

As I mentioned in one of my previous posts.

Alot of statistics on the does the deterent thing work or not are based on very old cases where criminals had a better chance of getting away with things so they figured it was a worthwhile risk.

For some I guess it payed off for others not so well.

Without bringing it back and logging what happends over a few years its nigh on impossible to say wether it works or not.

 

[BES]

The question of the death penalty being a deterrent has shown , especially in the USA as not making any difference if people commit murder or not. Infact during the period when the death penalty was suspended from 1967 to 1972 the number of murders fell.
The death pentaly is and will never be a deterrent. Most murders are not premeditated.
But putting a person to death who sat down and decided I'm going to kill someone today and enjoys it so decides to go out next day and do it again and again or a person who's a bit ****ed of with the world and walks into a school a mows down 20 children or they don't like what their goverments polices on certain things so parks a van full of explosives which destroys a building killing hundreds these should die for their crimes.

 

[7029 dave]

Of course you are right, it never has been an deterrent, just an eye for an eye, but we all know right from wrong, if anybody is prepared to take an life they should forfeit theirs.

 

[trev]

Of course you are right, it never has been an deterrent, just an eye for an eye, but we all know right from wrong, if anybody is prepared to take an life they should forfeit theirs.

Why?
Why should the state kill people who kill people to demonstrate that killing people is wrong?

 

[7029 dave]

Why?
Why should the state kill people who kill people to demonstrate that killing people is wrong?

I have given my opinion, and that's my opinion.

 

[BES]

There was 865 people executed in britian during the 20th century. I believe three of those were posthumoustly pardon.
Is that 3 too many yes of course it is.
The vast majority, as many as 90% , of those hung were for non premeditated murders usually with a single victim these today would not be considered even for the possiblity of a life term maybe even manslaughter at worst but the other 10% had murdered more than once or child murderers or sex killers who deserved to die.

 

[Silly Sausage]

To all the pro death proponents, would you be quite happy to pull the proverbial trigger with a clear conscious, and sleep at night?
I bet most of you would run a mile!

 

[Tiny Spark]

To all the pro death proponents, would you be quite happy to pull the proverbial trigger with a clear conscious, and sleep at night?
I bet most of you would run a mile!

Dont think that is a fair question to ask really.
From my experience people dont know if they are capable of taking a life until they are put in a position to.
And then if they do how they cope with warm blood running down there arm determines if they can stomach it or not!

This if from hunting experience btw not murder LOL

 

[7029 dave]

To all the pro death proponents, would you be quite happy to pull the proverbial trigger with a clear conscious, and sleep at night?
I bet most of you would run a mile!

Em yeah, if anybody harmed my kids I would 100%.!!!

 

[BES]

To all the pro death proponents, would you be quite happy to pull the proverbial trigger with a clear conscious, and sleep at night?
I bet most of you would run a mile!

If you gave me you weight height age and physical build I think I've read enough books on hanging to rig the gallows to give you correct drop to deliver the required force to break you spinal cord giving you a quick and painless death which is more than the victims of these animals that commit these crimes.
So to answer your question. Yes.
When do I start.
Bring me those two who slaughtered lee rigby they will do for a start.
Need a part time job now I can't work.

 

[trev]

Em yeah, if anybody harmed my kids I would 100%.!!!

There's no connection to you or your family. Could you pull the trigger/lever?

 

[trev]

@marvo.
Is it too late to have a poll included on this?
Straight yes or no, do you support the reintroduction of the death penalty?

 

[7029 dave]

There's no connection to you or your family. Could you pull the trigger/lever?

No would find that hard.