Death penalty

Octopus · Mar 22, 2015

GMES said:
or called Ukesrail, essexboy or essex he's been risen from the dead at least 4 times!!

He's alive and well on another forum.. only time will tell if he can remain a member!

Engineer54 · Mar 22, 2015

So what would you do with someone like JIHAD JOHN?? Why the hell should we keep these sort of people for the rest of their life at a horrendous cost to the country?? All while they brainwash others into becoming carbon copies of themselves!!..,

Personally no need for any execution ceremony/procedure, ...on the due court assigned date, taken to a tiled room and a single bullet to the back of the head.... Sorted!!

Works pretty well over here in China!! lol!

Some people are just pure Evil, that just have no place in this world, so why prolong the the inevitable!!

Octopus · Mar 22, 2015

Engineer54 said:
So what would you do with someone like JIHAD JOHN?? Why the hell should we keep these sort of people for the rest of their life at a horrendous cost to the country?? All while they brainwash others into becoming carbon copies of themselves!!..,

Personally no need for any execution ceremony/procedure, ...on the due court assigned date, taken to a tiled room and a single bullet to the back of the head.... Sorted!!

Works pretty well over here in China!! lol!

Some people are just pure Evil, that just have no place in this world, so why prolong the the inevitable!!

Do the Chinese bother with that step?

trev · Mar 22, 2015

Engineer54 said:
So what would you do with someone like JIHAD JOHN?? Why the hell should we keep these sort of people for the rest of their life at a horrendous cost to the country?? All while they brainwash others into becoming carbon copies of themselves!!..,

Personally no need for any execution ceremony/procedure, ...on the due court assigned date, taken to a tiled room and a single bullet to the back of the head.... Sorted!!

Works pretty well over here in China!! lol!

Some people are just pure Evil, that just have no place in this world, so why prolong the the inevitable!!

There are always cases that can be cited like him. What would you say to the family of Barry George had he been executed?

Engineer54 · Mar 22, 2015

Murdoch said:
Do the Chinese bother with that step?

According to the Mrs, the condemned have automatic right of appeal (in most cases). Often the sentence is carried out at the end of a failed appeal hearing, certainly within 2 or 3 days of that hearing...

derek · Mar 22, 2015

Engineer54 said:
So what would you do with someone like JIHAD JOHN?? Why the hell should we keep these sort of people for the rest of their life at a horrendous cost to the country?? All while they brainwash others into becoming carbon copies of themselves!!..,

Personally no need for any execution ceremony/procedure, ...on the due court assigned date, taken to a tiled room and a single bullet to the back of the head.... Sorted!!

Works pretty well over here in China!! lol!

Some people are just pure Evil, that just have no place in this world, so why prolong the the inevitable!!

If it was done by UK law you can guarantee that by the time all the appeals process had been gone through more money would have been spent than it would cost to lock them up for a lifetime. This has proven to be the case in the US.
I'm against the death penalty as the judicial system is not perfect and the police will often lie if it means getting a conviction.

Engineer54 · Mar 22, 2015

trev said:
There are always cases that can be cited like him. What would you say to the family of Barry George had he been executed?

Eh, Sorry??

No, seriously when you have a person caught on camera bang to rights, without a shadow of a doubt of guilt.... I'd have no hesitatation whatsoever signing a death warrant....

Leesparkykent · Mar 22, 2015

derek said:
If it was done by UK law you can guarantee that by the time all the appeals process had been gone through more money would have been spent than it would cost to lock them up for a lifetime. This has proven to be the case in the US.
I'm against the death penalty as the judicial system is not perfect and the police will often lie if it means getting a conviction.

Bang on!

Engineer54 · Mar 22, 2015

derek said:
If it was done by UK law you can guarantee that by the time all the appeals process had been gone through more money would have been spent than it would cost to lock them up for a lifetime. This has proven to be the case in the US.
I'm against the death penalty as the judicial system is not perfect and the police will often lie if it meansgetting a conviction.

Heard that argument many times over, but it's always a different matter when some evil ba***d without a shred of conscience or regret kills a family member for no reason....

trev · Mar 22, 2015

Engineer54 said:
Eh, Sorry??

No, seriously when you have a person caught on camera bang to rights, without a shadow of a doubt of guilt.... I'd have no hesitatation whatsoever signing a death warrant....

You miss my point. Barry George (among many others that could be named) was found guilty by a court on the grounds of the weight of evidence against him, some of it circumstantial, some of it forensic but the point is that he would have hanged some three weeks after being found guilty.
What would you say to his family after it was found that some of the evidence against him was fabricated and he was found to be not guilty of the crime for which he would have hanged?

derek · Mar 22, 2015

I'm against the state executing people, that doesn't mean I wouldn't kill someone who hurt my family.

Barry White · Mar 22, 2015

We are all capable of murder and I dont condone a hanging for that, but where its proved without doubt that someone planned and executed murders (serial killers etc) why should we pay to keep them alive Ian Brady has cost us over 14 million + his legal costs and he is guilty without doubt
Would I pust the button ? with pleasure

plugsandsparks · Mar 22, 2015

If anyone can remember a Brighton Hotel that was bombed, well it was full of Tories inc my favourite. Anyway they caught the bomber, he served 14 years then was released as part of the peace process. His ultimate boss managed to get a seat in parliament.... Funny old world isn't it.

trev · Mar 22, 2015

plugsandsparks said:
If anyone can remember a Brighton Hotel that was bombed, well it was full of Tories inc my favourite. Anyway they caught the bomber, he served 14 years then was released as part of the peace process. His ultimate boss managed to get a seat in parliament.... Funny old world isn't it.

There was a pub in Guildford that was bombed, the bombers were caught and would have hanged. Later they were found not guilty.
Good job we didn't have a death penalty then.

Guest77 · Mar 22, 2015

ian.settle1 said:
That would have been to quick for him, should have had a red hot poker shoved up his jacksy like Edward II

Or put in a 30ft square room with all the mothers of the children and disabled children he sexually abused, just him and them and their nails, he would be stripped to the bone and die in agony, I would celebrate with a pint afterwards, the man is scum, end of.