Distributors cut out fuse

[kung]

If anyone does notify DNO then you may not be charged anyway so worth finding out ! if however you do get charged get the guys mobile number or home number as 99% will do this for you every time you need it done for a few beers or smokes etc as Tesco say every little helps !

 

[platty1005]

How can you be sure what fuse is inside the carrier if you do not remove it and look inside. It could be a 6 inch nail or piece of 16mm copper fitted previously by the 10 gallon hat and six shooter fraternity.

If you remove the fuse and it is OK the info you require is written on the side of the fuse BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL WHEN REMOVING SERVICE FUSE

If it is a nail or other unsafe item then ring your local Electricity supplier who owns that piece of equipment and explain that you have found an unsafe situation that requires urgent attention. An engineer should arrive soon to remedy the problem probably by fitting the correct type of fuse. so just ask them what they have put in.

PS there should be no cost for this service it is their equipment up to and including the meter

 

[rob1967]

I ask this same question here a few months ago weather or not I could pull the cut out fuse and most of the answers I got was no...

 

[Darkwood]

How can you be sure what fuse is inside the carrier if you do not remove it and look inside. It could be a 6 inch nail or piece of 16mm copper fitted previously by the 10 gallon hat and six shooter fraternity.

If you remove the fuse and it is OK the info you require is written on the side of the fuse BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL WHEN REMOVING SERVICE FUSE

If it is a nail or other unsafe item then ring your local Electricity supplier who owns that piece of equipment and explain that you have found an unsafe situation that requires urgent attention. An engineer should arrive soon to remedy the problem probably by fitting the correct type of fuse. so just ask them what they have put in.

PS there should be no cost for this service it is their equipment up to and including the meter

It is still illegal to remove the cutout fuse for any other reason except to remove an immediate hazard or danger so again i say No! you cant remove it to check the type and rating etc, you must ring the supplier and request this info and i agree they may drag their heels abit but they are legally bound to supply you this info for free. If their is a nail in it its not your responsibilty to check or find out its the suppliers job.
Having said all this i dont know a sparky that dosnt check it themselves im just telling it from a legal point of view.

 

[andekoch]

I agree with all of the above. The official line is we can't remove the main fuse or tamper with it.
On the cert fill in what you can see, if you can't determine the capacity or type of the fuse just say so.
Normally if the house holder calls the elec co and askes them to remove the fuse for their sparky there is no charge to the house owner (also saves you half a day on the phone and a big phone bill).

If however there is some good reason for you to remove it make sure that there is no load on it so switch off all mcb's and the main switch.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

I stopped dabbling with these cutout fuses because an Electician got killed removing one, he got hold of the carrier and it crumbled in his hand he finished up with a handful of live bits and didnt live to tell the tale.

I just disconnect at the meter with it live. Not ideal i know, and if i cant do that then its on the phone to get it sorted.

My preffered route is to ring supplier on behalf of the customer and get them to fit an isolator prior to me doing the job, its only about £40 and i include it in cost of rewire so that the customer doesnt see the expense.

Cheers...............Howard

 

[saveloy]

I work in the Scottish and Southern DNO area. If you are registered with the following trade associations,
NICEIC, ECA, NAPIT or SELECT then they have a policy that allows contractors to remove the cutout fuse for routine maintenance work.
You must inform SSE that you have removed the fuse and when finished reseal it with a temporary label obtained from their stores. They will then send someone out to fit a new seal.

Info here: (PDF download at top of page) Removal Of Fuses

 

[pjb1]

The EWR states it is illegal to work live,Unless the situation can not be avoid.So surely the DNO is treading on very stony ground stopping you.

 

[Spudnik]

They will then send someone out to fit a new seal.

I work in their area and i bet that havent done one of mine yet.

 

[saveloy]

Got my copy of Switched On magazine today from the Electrical Safety Council. There is an article that outlines the problem contractors face, with regard to removal of distributors cutout, in order for work to be carried out safely

In short the ESC along with NICEIC, the ECA and other contracting bodies have been campaigning for the situation to be improved in the interest of safety. ESC are reporting that the concerns are being addressed by DCUSA. DCUSA is a multi party contract between all licsensed distributors, suppliers and generators in GB.

DCUSA has set up a working group to find out what practices are happening and why. They have issued a consultation document to gather information from the relavent interested parties.

In the ESC magazine they say they are hoping for a UK wide scheme to be introduced, that will allow contractors NOT employed by distribution companies, to remove domestic fuses for work to be carried out safely.

It does appear that at long last this issue is to be addressed. May take some time though.

 

[electricAl]

May take some time though.

Mmmm...probably money too. Will we have to pay an assessment fee on this too, do ya think?

Good info tho. Hopefully they can come up with some multi-lateral ruling so we all know where we stand.

Thanks Sav`

 

[Spudnik]

Well at least it is being addressed now.

Taken long enough though.

 

[saveloy]

Mmmm...probably money too. Will we have to pay an assessment fee on this too, do ya think?

Good info tho. Hopefully they can come up with some multi-lateral ruling so we all know where we stand.

Thanks Sav`

Doesn't metion a fee. Is only at the consultation stage though. You know how these things work.
The general gist that I got was they are hoping for a single scheme that covers the whole country instead of the localised ones they have at the moment.

We will have to wait and see how this pans out.

Well at least it is being addressed now.

Taken long enough though.

Couldn't agree more mate. The impression I get is that the contracting bodies and ESC are unhappy because the distibution companies all have differing policies that lead to dangerous and unsafe working practices.

They describe the proceadures for geting DNO to remove fuses as, and I quote
"confusing, time consuming and frustrating for both electrical contractors and their customers alike"

Just about sums it up for me.

 

[electricAl]

"confusing, time consuming and frustrating for both electrical contractors and their customers alike"

Oh, they`ve tried ringing British Gas re: an isolator too



Can you guess what they ask when you ring...

That`s right...

"Sorry, but what`s an isolator please"

& that`s the technical department

Those given the wink, wink to carry on don`t know how lucky they are - Eon are "Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh NO, you couldn`t possibly remove the cutout!" merchants.

 

[Darkwood]

Oh, they`ve tried ringing British Gas re: an isolator too



Can you guess what they ask when you ring...

That`s right...

"Sorry, but what`s an isolator please"

& that`s the technical department

Those given the wink, wink to carry on don`t know how lucky they are - Eon are "Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh NO, you couldn`t possibly remove the cutout!" merchants.

I find the best way is to start reeling out bs codes for fuses and supply types it then tends to weed out the middle men, then you get the real technical department but you have to expect a few transfers.