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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

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Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[Dave OCD]

You're on top form tonight !

PS Any Man U fans about on here ?? I've more or less finished winding up all the ones I know.

 

[DPG]

You're on top form tonight !

No, she never said that unfortunately

 

[Raptor0014]

10.5kw shower, 45a switch, 6mm T&E and a 63a MCB as the OCPD with no RCD. This is the result....

But at least they lined it up with the light switch.

 

[DPG]

10.5kw shower, 45a switch, 6mm T&E and a 63a MCB as the OCPD with no RCD. This is the result....

But at least they lined it up with the light switch.

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To be fair, if the terminations had been secure and tight then that combination would probably have lasted years.

 

[mainline]

Looks like another case of bad joint /cheap isolator.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Notching the joints was the plumbers way, and I think electricians back then followed suit, and probably still do to a certain degree, as sometimes needs must.

Brings back memories though of live nails poking out the floor, or the missus shouting up the stairs that there's water dripping from the ceiling.


If that wiring was staying, I would notch some nail plates into the floor board, better than having to junction box the cables just to divert them through some joist weakening holes.

I still have a load of "SafePlates" in a box somewhere....

 

[Dave OCD]

10.5kw shower, 45a switch, 6mm T&E and a 63a MCB as the OCPD with no RCD. This is the result....

But at least they lined it up with the light switch.

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It looks like a 'Click' switch which are normally pretty good , probably just badly terminated. I hate those 10kW + showers, ridiculous amount of current draw really.

 

[Taylortwocities]

It looks like a 'Click' switch which are normally pretty good , probably just badly terminated. I hate those 10kW + showers, ridiculous amount of current draw really.

And, yet again, its the neutral connection that failed. Funny that.

 

[littlespark]

I think some cowboys/ plumbers fitting showers think as long as the live is tight, it’s all good. Neutral isn’t that important, is it??

Always seems to be neutrals… with pull cords as well. And it happens with 7kW as well, but doesn’t make as big a bang as a 10

Wait until everyone’s EV charge points start melting… oh wait, I’ve already had one!

 

[mainline]

I think some cowboys/ plumbers fitting showers think as long as the live is tight, it’s all good. Neutral isn’t that important, is it??

Always seems to be neutrals… with pull cords as well. And it happens with 7kW as well, but doesn’t make as big a bang as a 10

Wait until everyone’s EV charge points start melting… oh wait, I’ve already had one!

I never had a problem with 50 amp Crabtree pull cords, double terminal screws helps.

 

[nicebutdim]

I think some cowboys/ plumbers fitting showers think as long as the live is tight, it’s all good. Neutral isn’t that important, is it??

Always seems to be neutrals… with pull cords as well. And it happens with 7kW as well, but doesn’t make as big a bang as a 10

Wait until everyone’s EV charge points start melting… oh wait, I’ve already had one!

Some charge points have very low torque setting for supply cable - astoundingly low and I tend to spend a bit of time getting stranded conductors bedded in before torquing.

 

[Dave OCD]

I think some cowboys/ plumbers fitting showers think as long as the live is tight, it’s all good. Neutral isn’t that important, is it??

Always seems to be neutrals… with pull cords as well. And it happens with 7kW as well, but doesn’t make as big a bang as a 10

Wait until everyone’s EV charge points start melting… oh wait, I’ve already had one!

Should have tightened that neutral another half turn.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Must admit when I first started out on this rocky road I was surprised how much more torque I could get with the correct terminal screwdriver with approximately the same amount of effort.

 

[nicebutdim]

Must admit when I first started out on this rocky road I was surprised how much more torque I could get with the correct terminal screwdriver with approximately the same amount of effort.

Assuming terminal screws are made from something more substantial than the cheese certain manufacturers consider acceptable for this purpose.

 

[Mike Johnson]

For the last ten years I have only used Hagar and they seem to last well, although I do like a bit of Roqefort with my port.