Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[Harwoodandy]

I wasn't trying to get your back up here and maybe you read my post the wrong way but I would appreciate you don't reply with an attitude as regardless whether it be to staff or any other members we frown on such responses, it helps no-one and usually drags the thread downhill, I asked because I was genuinely confused, and no, I'm not easily confused, been on this forum for over 7yrs and and an 11,000+ post count so I tend to have got the jist of how and why people post and respond, I even viewed it on my phone before I posted and it was very clear hence why I queried it. TBH I was rather expecting you to say you left your glasses somewhere or you were looking at a different pic by mistake as the thred is full of them.. that's why I commented to check you were seeing the same pic really.
You have answered what I asked and thats is all I was enquiring about, thankyou.

You started it

 

[Mattja]

About time I made a contribution here, and this little gem from yesterday was asking for it. What's going on is:
* short T&E spurring off a socket on the inside
* connecting to a flex cable (there is actually a screwed connector under that tape, I was surprised not to find it just twist-&-taped) in the outside terminal
*from there clipped to the wall close to the ground without any protection
* and yes that's right, the flex is 2 core, NO EARTH, going to an outside socket!

 

[Harwoodandy]

I'll probably get shot down as viewing on phone but.....

That looks like PVC covered Micc to me?, it has the shrouds over the glands? The black sleeving looks like the old BICC stuff 1 & 1.5mm and that looks like the seal just poking out from the box entry in the 3rd pic?
The box in pic 1 is tagged to earth so continuity would be through copper cable sheath if it was pyro.
Having said that there is no conductor to earth pin on socket so presumably relying on cover screws for earth, an earth tail seal would have done the job nicely.

Andy

 

[GMES]

Not sure if I have put this one up before, but clocked it on an Eicr last year. Nothing like using a product to it's full potential.

 

[GMES]

Here is another classic, from an eicr, I also picked up the contract for all their work after I pointed out the problem of letting the plumber do the wiring and the electrician do the plumbing

 

[Harwoodandy]

Found this little beauty under a bathroom floor where a plumber had fitted an electric towel warmer whilst refurbing a bathroom.

 

[HandySparks]

I'll probably get shot down as viewing on phone but.....

That looks like PVC covered Micc to me?, it has the shrouds over the glands? The black sleeving looks like the old BICC stuff 1 & 1.5mm and that looks like the seal just poking out from the box entry in the 3rd pic?
The box in pic 1 is tagged to earth so continuity would be through copper cable sheath if it was pyro.
Having said that there is no conductor to earth pin on socket so presumably relying on cover screws for earth, an earth tail seal would have done the job nicely.

Andy

I'd completely agree with you here; MICC.

The OP of this bit of thread could do with some further education on cable types.

 

[freddo]

I just noticed that Lewden socket would have been at an angle as the box has been fitted upside down.

 

[Mattja]

I'll probably get shot down as viewing on phone but.....

That looks like PVC covered Micc to me?, it has the shrouds over the glands? The black sleeving looks like the old BICC stuff 1 & 1.5mm and that looks like the seal just poking out from the box entry in the 3rd pic?
The box in pic 1 is tagged to earth so continuity would be through copper cable sheath if it was pyro.
Having said that there is no conductor to earth pin on socket so presumably relying on cover screws for earth, an earth tail seal would have done the job nicely.

Andy

Guess it's hard to tell from the picture, will work on keeping those hands steady, but that's definitely not micc, just a flex like you'd find on an appliance. I tested before taking that old crap off, sure enough no earth regardless of where I stuck the probe around that outside socket, and the IR... Thought for a moment that my tester wasn't working, tested for IR again using the continuity setting on my tester and got 1076 ohms between L and N. The IR for L-E and N-E was 134 mega ohms (if I remember right, something around there), so wasn't hard to guess where the bad L-N IR was from!

I'm guessing whoever did that old thing had seen it done properly with micc and thought dressing up with glands and shrouds just made it look pretty? Anyway not a big job to put a new socket (the right way up!) in place with conduit back to the inside socket. Not a perfect IR afterwards, 120 something mega ohms, but that's connected to the rest of the old circuit so I'll take it.



P.S. GMES that junction box is hilarious!

 

[Mattja]

EDIT: double posted, whoops!

 

[Harwoodandy]

I just noticed that Lewden socket would have been at an angle as the box has been fitted upside down.

Oh yes, good spot sir, 2 screws at most exposed to weather side, IE top.
What an odd thing to do. Maybe fitted gland fixed backbox to wall and then couldn't be bothered changing?!
Lasted thirty odd years though

 

[Lucien Nunes]

I totally don't have time to post this as I'm in the middle of fixing a breakdown but I just came on here for a quick break way from the job and post #708 & 715 fried my brain. How can that not be MI? Granted the few inches under the socket are a bit pale and flexy-looking but, er, stub slv over flex cores c/w PVC tag on one of them? Anyone advanced enough in the trade to have stub in their back pocket and to teach flex to stay straight as a die between P-clips, will know that a socket-outlet needs a CPC.

Pics of the flex and stuffing glands (I can see the hex under the shroud) or it didn't happen.

And 'IR' of 1076Ω is an appliance or a charred wreck. 230²/1076=50W, the heat of two average soldering irons. Nothing there got that hot, PVC cable would have been on fire and burnt through.

 

[DPG]

Great post Lucien!

 

[Tony Barnes]

Can you see what's wrong guy lol,
some kitchen fitter had fix his sockets to the floor for some strange reason for his appliences. Then fitted his kitchen over the top of of them all before realising that he'd wired his sockets arse first. So instead of redoing his sockets he decided to swap line and neutral in the db.

 

[Tony Barnes]

Good old farmers