Drilled through electric conduit/cable

[wayne]

we all know the unqualified amatuer ought to practice ,then post to give us a laugh

 

[Shakey]

Well done Bane, I've just logged on and started reading this thread. Surely this work cannot be classed as a "like for like replacement" as changing accessories would be and is therefore notifiable in theory.

It is a job for someone who can competantly test the circuit after replacing the damaged cable, not for DIY.

I would also wonder about the advice given "over the telephone" by the electrician concerned. If the property had a "standard" cu, not split load, then there would be no rcd protection and the possibility of a substancial earth fault being present.

Open to comments please.

Tony, whilst i agree that this guy should probably not be doing it (I was actually more interested in discussing what is 'accessible and the new maintenance free JB's), surely this would come under

A. Emergency repair (which he doesnt have to pre-notify at least)

and probably

B. Changing the cable for a single circuit only where the same size cable and route is used (which is non-notifiable)

But yes, it should still be tested and a should preferably be carried out by a sparks (thats me out of the running then!)

 

[tony.towa]

Hi ShaKey,

Hope I did not appear to be having a go at anyone.

Being Accessible is another one of those open to interpretation regulations which seem to beexcessive in our industry.

I thank you for the non notifiable definitions, just a daft thought springs to mind: if you replaced every cable one at a time and using the same cable routes does this mean that you could rewire your house without it being notifiable?

In many ways I think the thing that gave me the most concern was the "advice" given over the phone by the electrician.

As for you not being able to carry out the testing - well you only need to be competant!!!

Cheers

Tony

 

[Spudmiester]

Spudmiester, you've changed. What happened to the other fella?

Found that picture on the net and thought it was amusing, might put Mr Potato Head back though !

 

[Vagabond]

Thanks for the replies all, im certainly no electrician so wouldnt be able to test anything afterwards, in fact, I am the Homer Simpson of DIY.

Ive got a sparky coming today, so hopefully get this sorted, or at elast get a ballpark cost and details of what they'll need to do.

Ill keep you updated on progress.

 

[Shakey]

Hi ShaKey,

Hope I did not appear to be having a go at anyone.

Being Accessible is another one of those open to interpretation regulations which seem to beexcessive in our industry.

I thank you for the non notifiable definitions, just a daft thought springs to mind: if you replaced every cable one at a time and using the same cable routes does this mean that you could rewire your house without it being notifiable?

In many ways I think the thing that gave me the most concern was the "advice" given over the phone by the electrician.

As for you not being able to carry out the testing - well you only need to be competant!!!

Cheers

Tony

ha ha Tony, no of course you werent having a go

You would not believe how many students i have taught with the 'replace a single cable' rule that say, "so i could do lots of them and rewire the house"

and thats why the Approved Document says "for a single circuit only"

although it doesnt give a time scale between changing this cable, and then that cable.............

 

[Carter]

although it doesnt give a time scale between changing this cable, and then that cable.............

So does that mean that he'd end up with a file full of Minor Works Certs an inch thick?

 

[jibspark]

ok this might not be the correct thing to say but to avoid to much destruction, if its a ring, disconnecting and removing the offending leg (from BOTH sockets), cut it back, tape up and poke out of the way, (label it) and then split the ring and create 2 radials?

 

[montybaber]

Then the cable will be undersized wont it?

 

[jibspark]

i wouldnt have thought so if they both went on 16A mcb's

 

[montybaber]

Sorry thought you just meant split the ring into 2 radials from original MCB

 

[jibspark]

lol no i meant split them in the board too, sorry didnt explain myself very well.

 

[MRES]

There is nothing a sparky enjoys more than distroiying chip board floors!

Seriously any sparks worth his salt should not have a problem gaining access - chop saws are great tools.

Exactly

 

[Shakey]

Sorry thought you just meant split the ring into 2 radials from original MCB

Radials are fine, but i would put them on 20A 60898's (just so it conforms with Table 8A in the OSG, and appendix 15 of the regs)

 

[jibspark]

Fair point, the only reason I suggested 16a was not knowing the cable size.