ECS card arggggghhhhhhhh.

[AJshep]

So I formally completed and finished my electrotechnical apprenticeship with JTL in 2003.
My apprenticeship was a standard five year and we only got entered into doing our AM2 once we had completed 5 years experience and shown neccessary experience in our log books. In this time I completed the various courses...
C&G Part 1 & 2 (236 I believe) AM1, AM2 and NVQ levels 2 & 3 (which were log book based)
Once I completed I got a nice certificate from JTL, and headed signed letters which also had JIB mark on it saying I've completed a formal apprenticeship in the electrotechnical industry and it listed all my quals. I also got a nice letter from JTL congratulating me and saying I've left funded training and my training contract was sent back to me.

Anyway I never applied for my card back then, my logic was I'll do my 2391 then get a "approved" card. So a few years later that's what I did, but unfortunately I never got around to applying for my card either and to be honest I never needed it.

Anyway now 15 years later, I want my card. My qualifications have been checked and verified, however I'm getting placed on hold because ECS think I'm still an Apprentice, they won't except my completion certificate, they won't except my my formal letters from JTL they won't except my original training contract from JTL because it says training deeds on the top .
The only thing they will except is a JIB409 form, the trouble is I no longer have contact with the company I completed my apprenticeship with back in 2003.

When I rang them up the woman said " I can see you have completed, but we can only accept an original training contract or a JIB409".

I work for myself now, I've tried sending copys off to JTL but I never get anything back. A few months this has been going on now.

Surely it can't be this hard, does everyone have this issue.

 

[I'mAvillen]

Hi I’m having trouble with getting “Completed Apprenticeship” on back of my card although I’m graded as an “Installation Technical”.

I finished my apprenticeship in 1998. I didn’t ever remember receiving a JIB409 did they even exist then ? No idea where my training deeds are either. Did anyone finish their apprenticeship in 1998 or around that time and get a JIB 409 ?

Hi Nolan, I'm guessing but i think they only have your technical qualifications, site experience cert's are missing. Maybe also AM2. Anyway, who wants to be an electrician? Biggest ripoff game in the world! You name me a trade where you get a book that keeps renewing over and over again? And, then have to pay an arm and a leg to complete a course related to that book.

 

[oscar21]

If more people took my approach then we wouldn't have this nonsense to deal with in the first place. Building sites need electricians at the end of the day, good ones aren't that easy to come by so when youturn up and they say have you got this card and that card just reply "look, I don't want your life story, do you want the job doing or not mate". If everyone said that then the work place would be a lot more simple. The rubbish sparks would soon get weeded out.

 

[nicebutdim]

If more people took my approach then we wouldn't have this nonsense to deal with in the first place. Building sites need electricians at the end of the day, good ones aren't that easy to come by so when youturn up and they say have you got this card and that card just reply "look, I don't want your life story, do you want the job doing or not mate". If everyone said that then the work place would be a lot more simple. The rubbish sparks would soon get weeded out.

Similar applies to domestic guys cutting prices to nothing, but it'll never happen. Things have been great for a while, but as work dries up it'll be back to the same old. Best qualified among all trades, but not a lick of sense among them.