Electrician Jobs EIC issue................................

[mhar]

The op suggests a one off event, a single rewire. I did not read this as a basis for his business model

 

[Baddegg]

I take these posts as........if somebody is at a stage where they are considering and or have started rewiring an entire house they know a little about electrical installation, at least in a domestic setting, which means they already know the answer to they question but are just looking for a cheap way out......or am I being cynical

 

[Wilko]

Possibly both cynical and correct .

 

[Barnaby Stedman]

Well to explain the situation - it is definitely not to base a business model on - if i were to set up as a domestic electrician then of course i would become registered and qualified etc etc... dont worry I do know and have seen the dangers of bad electrics. This 3rd party notification scheme seems to be perhaps what I am looking for - could anybody explain in any more detail as to what this is?
And btw I havent got the time to waste at college - although I would like to spend time gaining qualifications nothing really justifies the time or money spent to be honest.

 

[Silly Sausage]

I haven't got the time to waste at college - although I would like to spend time gaining qualifications nothing really justifies the time or money spent to be honest.

You're in a bit of a Catch 22 there then!
And unless you're an exceptional individual, like Einstein for example, you need the qualifications to play 'The Game'.

 

[Midwest]

Well to explain the situation - it is definitely not to base a business model on - if i were to set up as a domestic electrician then of course i would become registered and qualified etc etc... dont worry I do know and have seen the dangers of bad electrics. This 3rd party notification scheme seems to be perhaps what I am looking for - could anybody explain in any more detail as to what this is?
And btw I havent got the time to waste at college - although I would like to spend time gaining qualifications nothing really justifies the time or money spent to be honest.

Need to ask @Vortigern, think he's registered as one?

 

[mhar]

Read post 14 and phone Stroma or Napit. Not sure how somebody managed to disagree with it, it is what the system is.

 

[Midwest]

Read post 14 and phone Stroma or Napit. Not sure how somebody managed to disagree with it, it is what the system is.

I do recall though, when Vortigern previously responded on not a dissimilar thread, his charges for such a service.

 

[The Ghost]

Thanks for the prompt @Midwest. I can say that it appears you have not gone ahead and done the work which allows third party notification. I am registered with Stroma for third party notification. Thay are quite strict on how it works and it does mean you have to be in at the design stage and oversee the project and test while installing and produce the EIC. They have a special Third party certificate for this which gets scrutinised by some boffins I suppose at Stroma and then possibly approved. Unfortunately your requirements exclude me as while I am reassuringly expensive, I resigned my membership from NICEIC as I don't get on with them. And NICEIC do not allow third party notification so you really are up the creek there without a paddle as they say. So you will have to contact building control and they will send their electrician who will no doubt be a member of NICEIC (ironically a third party notification in all but name!) and then a large bill for you. But on the good side it would be cheaper than me.

 

[Midwest]

Hello. Am a competent electrician - been taught by qualified electricians, but have no qualifications myself.

Going back to the beginning again; whilst there is a significant gain to be mentored by experienced persons in a particular trade, those electricians, I suspect, have no knowledge on how a person should be trained, or to the technical aspects of that trade should be consumed & absorbed.

In short you can't police yourself in training, and who tests you to see if you've qualified in that area. My Dad help teach me to drive, but an examiner judicator that.

If your charging for your services, do you not think you should have some 'qualifications'?

 

[Barnaby Stedman]

If your charging for your services, do you not think you should have some 'qualifications'?[/QUOTE]
Yes I agree - I may not necessarily charge any more than materials - but as a busy person nothing in my life justifies spending such time and money at college instead of earning. I totally agree that this is they way to go if you want to be a sparky as a job though.

 

[Baddegg]

Got to say barnaby your honesty is refreshing...but I think even if you find a spark that can sign off 3 rd party when you explain your lack of qualifications they will probably make they excuses..

 

[Barnaby Stedman]

OK - well thanks for the advice - I will go out and speak to a few sparkys and see how it goes

 

[buzzlightyear]

Im now going to throw my hat in to the ring , this third party testing how can storma and nitpick say to the sparks you can test it ,what about the insurances for it , would any body asking for there own insurance to cover it or does the third party insurances cover it considering they are testing it .

 

[mhar]

For Stroma you have to increase your professional indemnity to £250,000