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Ive got an EICR to do this week, and ive mentioned previously how this is somthing i wish to do more off and i feel hands on experience is the best way to learn.

The property has only 4 circuits. 1 x ring, 1 x lighting, 1 x heating and 1 x cooker. I was originally asked to go and have a quick look by the customer as they had recently moved into the house and they were a little concerned by a few things.

A full kitchen refurb is planned in the next few weeks and with this in mind aswell as the issues raised by the customer i suggested the best course of action would be to carry out an EICR. This was agreed and i was also asked if i would be able to carry out the proposed kitchen refurb.

Now when i went to visit the property a couple of things caught my eye that i know will deem the installation unsatisfactory in terms of the report. One being the 45a cooker switch supplied in 6mm2 T&E and protected by a 32a MCB, which isolates the cooker, microwave and dishwasher all supplied in 2.5mm2 T&E from the cooker switch. When the refurb goes ahead this will all be corrected but my observations will be made on the installation at the time of the inspection. And so an unsatisfactory report given.

The plan is to use the existing 6mm feed to supply the induction hob ( which currently sits disconnected in the work top ). When i test the circuit can i use the results from the unsatisfactory report to issue a new satisfactory report once any remedial work is done. Or do i need to retest? This also goes for any other issues i may find.

A minor works certificate will be issued for the kitchen refurb once completed, and im left wondering if im creating myself extra needless paper work. If the issue ive mentioned turns out to be the only thing preventing a satisfactory report would it be better to just isolate/remove from circuit, as i know i am going in to do the refurb work anyway?

Thanks
 
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Of course not, and my 1989 house was built with just one RFC. Is there any scope with your client, to revisit this? If not, you'll have to proceed as is, but in your OP it sounds if they want things done 'properly' ?
Which is part of the reasoning behind the EICR. Once completed i can go back to the customer with my recommendations. Ive perhaps been guilty of looking at the job and trying to provide an installation that is both satisfactory but with minimal costs. As far as im concerned i not only have a duty to provide a safe installation but also to be upfront and honest with them. And i think it would be wrong to turn to them and say you need a new consumer unit, ring main etc etc when i can still provide a safe installation.
 
You could proceed as is, but as you know the other option would be better. If you give your clients the options and how much it would cost, and let them decide. You've done all you reasonably can then.
 
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I appreciate that dont get me wrong. As stated i agree with everything thats being said but as electricians weve all come across situations where doing the ideal job isnt always practical for a number of reasons. So what then?
Can you not get some technical help fro the part P, CPS you belong to?
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Which is part of the reasoning behind the EICR. Once completed i can go back to the customer with my recommendations. Ive perhaps been guilty of looking at the job and trying to provide an installation that is both satisfactory but with minimal costs. As far as im concerned i not only have a duty to provide a safe installation but also to be upfront and honest with them. And i think it would be wrong to turn to them and say you need a new consumer unit, ring main etc etc when i can still provide a safe installation.
 
One of the proposed changes for the 18th, is limiting planned leakage current (is it 30% or something). Difficult to achieve in the planned kitchen refurb. Some way off yet, but something that should be considered with any install, along with division of installation.
 
One of the proposed changes for the 18th, is limiting planned leakage current (is it 30% or something). Difficult to achieve in the planned kitchen refurb. Some way off yet, but something that should be considered with any install, along with division of installation.

Enough chit chat from me now, orrff to cook a veg curry!
 
One of the proposed changes for the 18th, is limiting planned leakage current (is it 30% or something). Difficult to achieve in the planned kitchen refurb. Some way off yet, but something that should be considered with any install, along with division of installation.
i got shot down on here once for a suggestion made about i think RCD protection on socket outlets and the 18th edition. Correct me if im wrong but is a proposed change that all socket outlets will be RCD protected as opposed to those rated at 20a currently. Anyway i was told you install to the CURRENT edition of the regulations.
 
Who knows what the will decide; my point is having just one RFC in a property could prove complicated, especially after one has been in there adding or altering. 'It was alright before you started'.
 
That's interesting. No scheme fees. How does it function? Heard of a few of doing this?
I have to fill in a Building Notification Form along with a cheque for ÂŁ80 prior to any work starting. That price is the same regardless of work, so its ÂŁ80 to notify a rewire and ÂŁ80 to notify installing downlights in a bathroom.
 
I have to fill in a Building Notification Form along with a cheque for ÂŁ80 prior to any work starting. That price is the same regardless of work, so its ÂŁ80 to notify a rewire and ÂŁ80 to notify installing downlights in a bathroom.
Surely you'd be better biting the bullet and joining a scheme? It would cover those costs in what, 4-5 jobs?
 
I have to fill in a Building Notification Form along with a cheque for ÂŁ80 prior to any work starting. That price is the same regardless of work, so its ÂŁ80 to notify a rewire and ÂŁ80 to notify installing downlights in a bathroom.

Ooohhh, thought I was onto a winner there! That adds up. Have you not considered a scam, sorry scheme?
 

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