EICR ....I was amazed !

[Luke238]

Hello,

I am by no means an expert but having just successfully completed my 2391-52 I was interested to be passed this EICR and see some of the observations.

I have removed the inspectors details but he/they are NICEIC approved contractors and have been in the industry for many years.

I appreciate that it is the inspector who makes an assessment of all the defects and reports and categorises them as he see's fit but we are given guidance as to what should be a C1.

No RCD protection is often discussed on this forum and I am aware that if the installation has no RCD protection but all supp bonding is in place then its a C3. If there is no RCD protection and no supp bonding then its a C2.

This installation has reportedly got supp bonding but no RCD so has been coded C1 ??

No isolator switch on cooker circuit C1 !! . I wasnt aware that it needed an isolator switch, I understood it needed a means of safe isolation which could be at the CU at the MCB albeit inconvenient.

 

[freddo]

My word that cert has a lot of spelling mistakes.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Rcd's and supplementary bonding is only relevant to bath/shower rooms, nowhere else. Your post implies otherwise.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

seems a bit odd circuit 1 is a ring on a 20a mcb, not mentioned even though it's serving the kitchen. Cookers on a 20 as well

 

[freddo]

C1 for not having RCDs for fault protection, when the earthing system is TN-C-S with very low earth fault loop readings.
Guess he must be trying to make it look like the CU is really bad to get some more work out of it.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Thats shyte report. Got my OCD to paperwork raging.

 

[Dave OCD]

Global I.R. testing too, lazy and sloppy IMO, and a Ze of 0.12 ohms obtained 'by enquiry' ?? The local DNO must be really on the case there eh.

 

[Charlie_]

Does seem strange that he enquired about the Ze but managed to measure all the Zs readings, which conveniently all tallied up with Ze + R1+R2

 

[DT1991]

Cables concealed in walls C1 Haha.
Max measured Zs on sockets LIM Haha.

Haha.

 

[ipf]

A thoroughly professional certificate...…...if you haven't the faintest idea what you're looking at.
…..and that's another reason why shysters and kn*****ds are able to get away with such cr@p.
Said it before and will say it again.....'domestic' is falling apart, 'commercial' is following …..and I'm seeing some very worrying signs in 'industrial'.

 

[SparkyAndGeorge]

Shouldn't there be some kind of independent mediator for EICR's to confirm or dispute the inspectors finding? seen some terrible reports lately either the inspector hasnt got a clue or is digging for remedial work, this isnt fair on the client or genuine inspectors.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

I have just got an eicr from a landlord, she has a number of hmos. I will be doing the first eicr in a fortnight - got 8 students in it and quite large, was a former refuge for domestic abused women. I said to her with the report i include images and the regulation relevant to the coding. And am happy to meet her at the house to walk through the findings.
I will quote for any remedials and encourage her to get other quotes for peace of mind. If she goes elsewhere then thats okay. Likewise i would do the work if she wants to go ahead.
She said im the first electrician to actually work like that. Said previous ones had literally just walked around the house and didnt test a lot of stuff as the communal areas such as hallway, all entrances and by the cu which was in cupboard with washing machines etc all had cctv in. Cover came off for all of 30 minutes.
Said the report had limitations, not verified and results completely different to previous reports which were all near enough the same.
She reported him to elecsa who said as he is not approved for eicrs with them and didnt use logo then there is nothing they can do other than write a letter saying go careful. She refused to pay invoice and he got aggressive. He is now a multi trade outfit doing full refurbs!! Apparently fully qualified plumber, electrician and general builder all by the age of 28!!
An eicr is only as good as the person doing it and how much time, skill and effort they use.

 

[The Flyinhos]

@Luke238 I don't think you have much of a choice but report it to the company & if your client has no joy then report to NICEIC. None of the governing bodies would like that, and they should do something about it. This sort of rip off give our trade a bad name, needs stamping out!!

 

[Zerax]

My word that cert has a lot of spelling mistakes.

He might be part of the unfortunate generation who were taught "phonics" at school ?

 

[Zerax]

....Apparently fully qualified plumber, electrician and general builder all by the age of 28!!....

This is how the modern world works now... it's all about having certificates ! Even the cycling proficiency "test" is now an "award" !