Eicr question

[rapidrich]

If a shower was fitted 15 years back and had no rcd what cat would it be on a eicr

 

[somersetsparks]

c3 then IMO

 

[somersetsparks]

If the bonding is fine then if it is is someone own home a C3 if it is a rented accommodation C2

How can you differentiate the 2, its a C3 in my book, you could install new it like it in 2008, it hasnt become 'potentially dangerous' since then. Bonding is in place. RCDs are no magic bullett

 

[martinxxxxxx]

When you do an inspection the reason for the inspection and the type of use of the building and the users has to be taken in to account. Landlords have a duty of care under law towards their tenants.
The ESC is calling on landlords to ensure that there is adequate RCD protection in all of their properties as fewer than half of UK households (49%) have adequate RCD protection and the number drops to just 30% for private tenants. A Residual Current Device (RCD) is a life-saving device that protects against dangerous electric shock and reduces the risk of electrical fires. Plug-in RCDs should be used if there is no RCD in the fusebox.

Press Releases News : Electrical Safety Council

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By law, landlords must ensure electrical installations and wiring are maintained in a safe condition throughout the tenancy . And tenants should feel obliged to flag electrical problems as soon as they appear, as well as maintain any electrical items they bring into the house. The consequences for not understanding obligations can be serious. If a landlord is found to be negligent over electrical safety it can lead to prosecution, with a fine of up to £5,000 on each count or imprisonment. This may come as a shock to the 38% of landlords who don’t believe there are any penalties for failing to maintain safety.

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[Guest55]

Its code 3 regardless of bathroom bonding or not.
From the ESC EICR guidlines giving examples of C3's ;

"Absence of RCD protection in a location containing a bath or shower where satisfactory suplementary bonding is present "

Its all there , clear as crystal but nobody could be arsed looking the facts up properly.
Apart from me ;-)

 

[martinxxxxxx]

Please may we see the link to this information

 

[Deservices]

Its code 3 regardless of bathroom bonding or not.
From the ESC EICR guidlines giving examples of C3's ;

"Absence of RCD protection in a location containing a bath or shower where satisfactory suplementary bonding is present "

Its all there , clear as crystal but nobody could be arsed looking the facts up properly.
Apart from me ;-)

Doesn't that say its code 3 if it has bonding?

 

[martinxxxxxx]

Where is the link to this please Biff, I can't find it on their site. Or are you looking at an old leaflet?

 

[Guest55]

Where is the link to this please Biff, I can't find it on their site. Or are you looking at an old leaflet?

Why ? dont you believe me lol ?

Best practice guides : Electrical Safety Council

guide no. 4 , bottom of page 15.

 

[martinxxxxxx]

Deservices - Do you have a link to it please?

 

[Guest55]

Doesn't that say its code 3 if it has bonding?

yes.
and its still code 3 if it doesnt.
but its code 2 for missing bonding if all bathroom circuits arent rcd'd

 

[martinxxxxxx]

But that says the opposite of what you are saying
It says exactly what I have said that it does depend on whether the Supp bonding is present

 

[martinxxxxxx]

So what I originally said is correct, there is also a case for a higher coding for rented accommodation don't you think?

 

[Guest55]

not really.
maybe more frequent insections tho.

 

[Guest55]

But that says the opposite of what you are saying
It says exactly what I have said that it does depend on whether the Supp bonding is present

good grief man , i'm trying to assist you.
it says nothing of the sort.
put whatever you like on the report.

 

[martinxxxxxx]

You not assisting anyone by misquoting a document.
I was assisting with Properly Sourced and linked information quoted verbatim