UK EICR Unsatisfactory

[Danmatt]

Hi, needed an EICR for my house. An electrician has issued me with an unsatisfactory certificate. He's invoiced me for doing the survey but obvs work needs doing. If I don't get him to do the remedial work where do I stand with having a satisfactory certificate?

Also, the electrician has said "There is no RCD protection for circuits 1 & 2, the consumer unit is made from plastic". Yes, I have a plastic consumer unit which he has put at a C3, commenting "Consumer unit is not metal or installed in a non-combustible cabinet or enclosure, showing NO signs of thermal damage, located under a wooden or combustible public stairwell forming part of an escape route from a dwelling area." My CU is not under my stairs nor is it part of an escape route. It's in a room next to the front door with a door which closes. The front door is not the only access to the outside of my house - I have a back door too through my kitchen.

My quote for works says "Replace & install consumer unit for dual RCD 18th edition". Do I actually need to replace the CU for a metal one or can the RCD protection be put in place for circuits 1&2.

Not sure if any of this makes sense.

 

[Danmatt]

So far, no one has explained to the OP that C3s do not result in an 'unsatisfactory' result. C1s and C2s are the ones that matter.
That appears to be a fair, honest and thorough EICR. There are a number of issues preventing the issuing of a satisfactory report, but most of these could be dealt with by a day's work.
The only thing I disagree with (from here) is the need to replace the CU, but if I was there in person, I might change my mind on that.

@brianmoooore it's ok. I understand about C3 being akin to an advisory on an MOT failure ?

 

[ipf]

that's how i read it. it's ambiguous how it's worded.

Great minds read alike? even if I can't get me words straight, looking at my post.

 

[Danmatt]

The first spark needs to see the work had been done, but the spark doing the the work would need to produce the new test certs which will cost the op again.

@buzzlightyear If reducing my quote from £900 means I have to pay again, then I'm happy to do so. Unless you think that's a fair assessment of the work required? ?

 

[brianmoooore]

Posting some pics. of your CU might help us decide.

 

[Micktw68]

Need pics of the CU to make a judgement on whether it needs changing or the C2 can be addressed.

 

[newfutile]

How can the fault current be 0.9 KA with a 0.09 ZE fault current to earth will be at least 2.55 KA and most likely more line-neutral.

 

[stevethesparks]

How can the fault current be 0.9 KA with a 0.09 ZE fault current to earth will be at least 2.55 KA and most likely more line-neutral.

Must be working on the new 10V C-min

 

[Danmatt]

For those asking for a pic of the CU, I don't live there at the moment. It's got to be done up and it's a 5-hour round trip ? I'll see if I have any somewhere

 

[Danmatt]

Photo of CU for those asking.

 

[loz2754]

Photo of CU for those asking.

Tenby is an obsolete brand of Legrand.
If you decide to change the MCBs to RCBOs, Legrand have said this will fit:

Consumer Unit 1 Mod Rcb Os Type B | CEF

 

[pc1966]

The only think not obvious is the C2 for the IP rating of the CU. Usually that means a hole big enough to get a finger in (e.g. missing blank, but your photo shows that is fine), or smaller one the top where people tend to leave crap that can fall in potentially causing spark/fire.

If it is gaps on the top then it might be that suitable glands could be fitted to seal the unit up. Having said that, if there is going to a an hour or two of work to remove, gland, install and re-test circuits then it might be worth paying the extra £300 or whatever for a new CU at the same time.

Again, more photos showing the top/bottom/side where any holes are would allow folk on here to comment in a more meaningful way.