EPC F...can get to D with a 1.5 kWp south-facing PV system?

[babba]

Thanks for trying...

 

[solarcat]

Thank you all,

yes if there is any chance of finding that link it would be great, I'll start looking for it online

 

[babba]

What Is Retrospective Planning Consent? How Do I Apply?

try this link on retrospective planning if you install you can apply after install worth a look...

 

[methley]

It does depend on the property's permitted development rights also. Mine had them removed so still needed planning.

 

[BruceB]

Methley, It would be interesting to know which permitted development rights were removed, because PV permitted development rights come under 'Part 40' of the relevant Act. For a great many people when permitted development rights were removed in earlier planning permissions, Part 40 did not exist, therefore it was not listed in the rights removed, therefore when it was introduced everyone benefitted from it because it had never been removed.

Solarcat, You want SI 2011/2056

The Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) (Amendment) (England) Order 2011

 

[babba]

Anyone tell me or give some guide lines on curtilage of a listed building...

 

[TedM]

Generally the garden. If a large house then paddocks or fields may be outside the curtilage.

 

[TedM]

This article http://www.ihbc.org.uk/context_archive/97/legal/CTX97[6].html gives extensive coverage to it.

 

[danesol]

Hi All, before we ask the Client to spend any money on a new EPC assessment..do you reckon there is any chance they can get to D if they fit a 1.5 kWp system (nice south-facing roof)?

Surely if you want to get a better tarrif after APRIL, you need to improve the house itself which leads to get the better tarriff for the PV Install, not the other way.........

or... fit a Solar water heating system first, along with replacement LED bulbs everywhere, internal wallboard insulation if cavity insul' not possible, better white goods ???

 

[babba]

Sounds expensive wait for the green deal whatever year that comes going on the HITS....

 

[methley]

Methley, It would be interesting to know which permitted development rights were removed, because PV permitted development rights come under 'Part 40' of the relevant Act.

My planning application was in Sept last year which predates the document in your link. At the time my local planning dept advised that permitted dev rights for Solar PV had been removed when the property was built. However another installation of mine in the same village, also within a conservation area, still had those rights and I was advised that planning was not required.

 

[TedM]

The legislation on allowing permitted development on roofs in conservation areas was actually changed from 1st October 2008 in England. The Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) (Amendment) (No. 2) (England) Order 2008 but if you have raised panels on a flat roof you may still have needed planning permission.

 

[methley]

Hmm, I'm a bit confused now. That document seems to say that development is NOT permitted if the installation is solar PV?

Class C​

Permitted development

C. Any other alteration to the roof of a dwellinghouse.

Development not permitted

C.1. Development is not permitted by Class C if—

(a)​

...

(ii) the installation, alteration or replacement of solar photovoltaics or solar thermal equipment.

 

[TedM]

It's not permitted under Part 1 Class C (which only covers general roof changes) but is permitted under Part 40 (which covers domestic microgeneration).

It's like having a law that says you cannot speed - but having another law that says it is OK as long as you have a blue flashing light.

If solar panels were allowed under Part 1 C then none of the special conditions that only apply under Part 40 (height, visual amenity etc) would be enforceable.

 

[pwboston]

Surely if you want to get a better tarrif after APRIL, you need to improve the house itself which leads to get the better tarriff for the PV Install, not the other way.........

I thought this was the case.

You had to have the D rating Before the solar pv is allowed at the higher 21p tariff, NOT taking into account the solar PV for the rating, can you confirm this is correct?