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I did a City and Guilds course, practical assessment and exam for the CG2919 on Monday and Tuesday, we were told about the difficulties with ensuring the safety of the charging equipment especially regarding the earthing in domestic properties, lots of discussions were about using the isolating transformer instead of converting the existing property to a TT system.


My question is which isolating transformers do you EV guys use typically looking at supplying a 7 Kw charging unit, where do you get them from and what is the cost of them.


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Lee
 
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The issue isn’t conversion of the clients property to a TT system, if there is any class 1 light outside fittings or bonded pipes to gas or water within 10 metres of the charging point you have the risk of dangerous touch voltages under earth fault (possibly from neighbours property etc) it’s part of the risk assessment you have to carry out prior to installation.

EV installation not straight forward external influences play a big part of installation, if you change the property from a PME to TT there’s always a risk of another electrician who doesn’t know the legislation on EV installation puts the PME connection back.

Also some ground conditions you would struggle to get the earth potential acceptable for the EV installation, hence why in the installation it’s easier and straight forward to install an isolating transformer.


Lee
 
I can understand not wanting to get involved with checking and changing electrical instalations and then being responsible for that instalation to some degree. but it;s not that easy with a 7kw load involved, that's not exactly a trivial load, and any transformer of 7kw capacity will be large and expensive, so there is NO easy way out. I say forget the trasformer idea ! it's just not practicle.
 
OP, could you clarify - were you meaning make the whole house electrical system TT?
 
I can understand not wanting to get involved with checking and changing electrical instalations and then being responsible for that instalation to some degree. but it;s not that easy with a 7kw load involved, that's not exactly a trivial load, and any transformer of 7kw capacity will be large and expensive, so there is NO easy way out. I say forget the trasformer idea ! it's just not practicle.



Check out the wiring regulations on EV charging it’s the only sensible way to go with PME unless the DNO can guarantee that there will never be a damaged cable to the neutral you need to carry out a risk assessment on the installation, I did my City and Guilds 2919-10 on Monday and Tuesday this week and going through the regs the only solution is to go down the isolating transformer (been told there’s a small unit that does 7Kw that fits a din rail unit ( not in a CU) that’s around the £200 +Vat price range just trying to find who sells it)
 

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