fan and isolator positioning

[ineedhelp]

Hi Everyone

Quick intro, I have recently started house bashing due to twice being made redundant first as an auto spark and second more recently a server electrician installing power systems to servers and the likes.

Anyway, A recent call took me to someone bathroom with a ceiling fan fault. Did the usual diagnosis and found fan unit to be faulty. My question is, both the fan (240v) and the isolator are positioned that they are in zone 2. Looking at my trusted greenie it seems that this set up does not conform (if i have interpreted it correctly that is). My dilemma is do I replace fan anyway or report this as not conforming and price up accordingly to correct such.


In commercial/industrial land we always worked on the philosophy " if i don't make the existing installation any worse then go ahead (within reason of course) but, Domestic land is a whole new beast and usually is last man frees all.

any help guys and gals would be much appreciated.

 

[Guest77]

Change the fan to a 12 volt fan, find the supply to the isolator at the bathroom light and divert it into the loft or to a cupboard if possible, fit a transformer and the isolator will be 12 volts just like the new fan Sunday morning tin hat on, let the fun begin haha

 

[telectrix]

any more posts like that, mike, and i'll be opening beer before the 12 o'clock watershed ( or is it beer shed)

 

[Paul.M]

Just to rattle the cage a bit more on this thread..... When was it installed and did it comply with the regs at the time?????

 

[telectrix]

it ain't broke, so don't fix it.

 

[Paul.M]

it ain't broke, so don't fix it.

Well said

 

[Guest77]

any more posts like that, mike, and i'll be opening beer before the 12 o'clock watershed ( or is it beer shed)

Got some somerset cider in the fridge, I am allowed a couple now and then regardless of the tablets I am taking, so I will drink them today, nearly 12

 

[shanky887614]

Got some somerset cider in the fridge, I am allowed a couple now and then regardless of the tablets I am taking, so I will drink them today, nearly 12

cider, the favoured drink of alkies the world over XD

any preference to which somerset cider?

 

[GMES]

Surely the entire house needs rewiring if the fan doesn't conform:leaving::leaving::leaving:

 

[telectrix]

you know it makes sense.

 

[Guest77]

cider, the favoured drink of alkies the world over XD

any preference to which somerset cider?

Provided it is cloudy and has farmers wife's toenails in it I will drink it lol

 

[telectrix]

if you get the chace, try addlestones cloudy cider on draught. MOORE-ISH.

 

[Guest77]

I tend to drink rich's farmhouse, half sweet half rough, a nice drop, very nice in fact IMO.

 

[shanky887614]

Provided it is cloudy and has farmers wife's toenails in it I will drink it lol

you going to go to that place and try the one with a pickled toe?

there is only 1 rule


drink it fast or drink it slow but you must kiss the toe

 

[Guest77]

you going to go to that place and try the one with a pickled toe?

there is only 1 rule


drink it fast or drink it slow but you must kiss the toe

I like to kiss camel toes, not sure if that is the same thing llllfflol haha

 

[atm84]

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UNG
Steam is created by water vapour condensing. It does not require the water to reach 100c for steam to be produced. Steam is actually invisible water vapour condensing to form tiny water droplets as it spreads into cooler air.

I've had many showers and opened the door and steam has billowed out.

If it req. water to be at 100c then no one would need a fan in the bathroom.

 

[telectrix]

sorry, mate, you're way out. starting at the bottom, you have ice, water, water vapour, and then steam. the stuff in your bathroom is water vapour. steam is invisible, and it's bloody hot.

 

[atm84]

sorry, mate, you're way out. starting at the bottom, you have ice, water, water vapour, and then steam. the stuff in your bathroom is water vapour. steam is invisible, and it's bloody hot.

Steam is created by water vapour condensing. Steam is in actual fact invisible water droplets. A shower at 40c can create steam and set smoke alarms off.

 

[telectrix]

Steam is the technical term for the gaseous phase of water, which is formed when water boils.

 

[atm84]

Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.

 

[telectrix]

and when water vapour condenses, it becomes ..... water. and it's not just internet info. i have A level physics and as part of HND did physics theory almost to degree level. steam is invisible as it's a gas, not vapour.

 

[Guest77]

Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.

does that include post 42 lol?

 

[Adam W]

I'm pretty sure condensed water vapour is most commonly known as 'water' - 'steam' is the gaseous form of water which is produced when water is heated to 100 degrees Celsius and what was used to power trains.
I don't see how a switch in a bathroom is going to be affected any differently to one in a kitchen; the idea of using a pull switch in the bathroom or switch outside the bathroom was to reduce the risk from operating it with wet hands, not to prevent water ingress. Generally speaking a fan isolator is intended for maintenance, which isn't usually carried out by someone who has just stepped out of the shower.

 

[GMES]

I'm pretty sure condensed water vapour is most commonly known as 'water' - 'steam' is the gaseous form of water which is produced when water is heated to 100 degrees Celsius and what was used to power trains.
I don't see how a switch in a bathroom is going to be affected any differently to one in a kitchen; the idea of using a pull switch in the bathroom or switch outside the bathroom was to reduce the risk from operating it with wet hands, not to prevent water ingress. Generally speaking a fan isolator is intended for maintenance, which isn't usually carried out by someone who has just stepped out of the shower.

Adam, I will have you know I do some of my best work when I'm naked!!!

 

[telectrix]

ewwwwwww

 

[telectrix]

I'm pretty sure condensed water vapour is most commonly known as 'water' - 'steam' is the gaseous form of water which is produced when water is heated to 100 degrees Celsius and what was used to power trains.
I don't see how a switch in a bathroom is going to be affected any differently to one in a kitchen; the idea of using a pull switch in the bathroom or switch outside the bathroom was to reduce the risk from operating it with wet hands, not to prevent water ingress. Generally speaking a fan isolator is intended for maintenance, which isn't usually carried out by someone who has just stepped out of the shower.

exactly what i was trying to tell him.