Fire Brigade advice

[Octopus]

My point is that the FB have little to do these days so they do such jobs to get them out of the fire station.

My local ones carpark has as many trade vehicles as my local Wickes @ 8am

 

[Adam W]

I was under the impression mains interlinked alarms were only a requirement for new builds, when wiring is being put in anyway.
You can't really expect to say the word and everyone has to have their carpet and floorboards ripped up to have slightly different smoke detectors put in just in case they forget to change the batteries.
Same with metal CUs - like with all changes to the regs this isn't retrospective, but if you're having a new CU fitted it may as well be a metal one.
Yes I'm aware of the debate over cowboy DIs going around telling little old ladies that the CU they had installed 2 months ago is now illegal all of a sudden.

 

[tazz]

Well again Professionals giving good input....and the trainee section jump into a section out of their depth...

 

[elevate]

My personal opinion....FB should keep their nose out, and stick to putting fires out...BC conform to BS5839 and approved document B, and as such have the final ruling

They should also stay well clear of lifts, when they are not smashing the doors in with a sledgehammer (they have release keys) causing thousands of pounds worth of damage, they rescue passengers by releasing the brake, if the lift car is in the upper part of the shaft it will roll upwards, which can leave the landing doors open at the floor it was rolled up from with the lift car above. So there is now a situation with landing doors open into an empty shaft which they do not check before leaving site. I have seen this on three separate occasions in public buildings, how no one has been killed is pure luck.

 

[Adam W]

They should also stay well clear of lifts, when they are not smashing the doors in with a sledgehammer (they have release keys) causing thousands of pounds worth of damage, they rescue passengers by releasing the brake, if the lift car is in the upper part of the shaft it will roll upwards, which can leave the landing doors open at the floor it was rolled up from with the lift car above. So there is now a situation with landing doors open into an empty shaft which they do not check before leaving site. I have seen this on three separate occasions in public buildings, how no one has been killed is pure luck.

Either that or receive further training to do it properly. If someone is stuck in a lift at the weekend you can't very well leave them there until Monday morning.

 

[elevate]

Either that or receive further training to do it properly. If someone is stuck in a lift at the weekend you can't very well leave them there until Monday morning.

That's what lift engineers are for, who are on call 24/7.

 

[trev]

Why is it that people who work on telecoms systems, heating systems, lifts and alarms are known generally as engineers.
They bloody are not! It boils me wee.

 

[elevate]

Lift engineers are not engineers ?

 

[Guest666]

Why is it that people who work on telecoms systems, heating systems, lifts and alarms are known generally as engineers.
They bloody are not! It boils me wee.

Hang on a minute. That guy who came over to repair my washing machine. Are you telling me he ain't no engineer?

 

[elevate]

Ever stripped a gear on a lift machine, Installed guide rails, roped a lift, changed bearings or tested a lift ?

 

[spark 68]

A person who designs, builds, or maintainsengines, machines, or structures.

Hang on a minute. That guy who came over to repair my washing machine. Are you telling me he ain't no engineer?

No!, lol it means we are all engineers now yay :conehead: :hurray:

 

[trev]

Whoosh!
WTF was that?
The sound of that post going completely over your heads!
At one time it was not a title that was dished out willy nilly to all and sundry and which used to command respect because everyone knew it had been legitimately earned. I do not class your average gas safe bloke as an engineer, nor do I class a bloke who installs and/or maintains alarms the same way. Nor a phone bloke, nor a bloke who only installs lifts.
At the very least, nowadays anyway, an engineer should be educated to degree level.

 

[tazz]

Well mine goes with the qualifications and status...

 

[shanky887614]

Whoosh!
WTF was that?
The sound of that post going completely over your heads!
At one time it was not a title that was dished out willy nilly to all and sundry and which used to command respect because everyone knew it had been legitimately earned. I do not class your average gas safe bloke as an engineer, nor do I class a bloke who installs and/or maintains alarms the same way. Nor a phone bloke, nor a bloke who only installs lifts.
At the very least, nowadays anyway, an engineer should be educated to degree level.

certain ones like charted engineer still is

 

[Guest666]

I have no issue with the term engineer as long as it is after what 'discipline' they are claiming to be an engineer in. Ie. Washing machine engineer, electrical engineer, fire alarm engineer etc etc???