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As with all these sensationalist stories where statistics are quoted they are always a little light on fact how many incidents were there in the intervening years or does that not make a good story

As with a lot of statistics holes can be found in them while the "fuseboard" may have gone up in flames for the statistic to have any meaning the cause needs to be established. How many times has a customer gone out bought a 10.++ Kw shower and expect you to replace their old lesser Kw shower when it's pointed out that the cable and possibly the pull switch are not rated to run the new shower you are seen to be being a jobsworth and creating work and expense.
There are a lot of bigger better appliances out there these days that people are probably connecting to existing wiring and accessories without any concern or thought for the increased load coupled with the fact that very few people get their electrics checked every 5 - 10 years as recommended you have a recipe that once it's been baking for a number of years it all goes wrong with a fire

Without hard facts this story needs to be taken with a large pinch of salt rather than pointing fingers and apportioning blame by guess work. No where does this state they are all domestic incidents so if we are going to jump to conclusions exactly how many fuseboards (domestic, commercial and industrial) are installed in the LFB area and 253 of them went on fire or were they just called as a precaution and it is counted as a fire call. Been to quite a few smouldering boards in my time that had no intervention from the fire brigade that would never make the stats cause only me and the customer knew about it
 
Some muppet at the IET has genuinely taken what the ESC has had to say about the matter seriously in order for this ridiculous requirement to be implemented. It is afterall the ESC that has been pushing for this rule, I wonder why??? An ar$e covering excersise springs to mind...

The fact is, if you've connected up a DB with dodgy terminations, regardless of the material the thing is made of it's going to burn! The circuit protection afterall is plastic isn't it, and this protrudes outside of the enclosure?!?!

The way to stop the rise in 'fusebox' fires is by having skilled people install them!!! No amount of trying to paint over the cracks or trying to divert our attention away from the real issue is going to actually solve the problem.
 
Not a friend of yours either then? ...lol!!

I must admit, he is the only daft bugger i know of, that has ditched his DNO TN-S earth in favour of a 50 ohm Ra TT rod!! It's safer don't you know!!! lol!!

LOL!

And actively advocates the installation of 2 foot rods!?!?!?

The fella is a prize muppet! A wind up merchant of the highest order! Like a fly buzzing round yer head, you just want to swat him.
 
Statistics can be manipulated and or interpreted to say whatever you want them to say, depending on who you are, who you are working for, and what message they want to highlight. It is extremely rare to find any report/survey based around statistics that have been compiled/written by an author that is a completely unbiased 3rd party.

Me, i don't trust a word of any of them unless they can provide a traceable bona fide data line. Most cannot or outright refuse to divulge the full data used to compile these mostly fabricated reports.

Now how does that old saying go about Statistics?? ...lol!!
 
All those who agree that Electrical Trainee's are to blame for everything that goes wrong electrically, anywhere in the world say Aye: 'Aye' 'Aye' 'Aye'
 
Ill not bother changing the board in my house then! Good old 3036's.


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And yes, the meter has a low reading for the age, it rolled around the clock to 0.
 
Does anyone remember the Electium recall , I went round all my jobs and changed loads of MCBs . I bet theres still loads out there that haven't been changed ..

There are & that's why Fire crews (here anyway) carry the recall notification sent out by Electrium.
When they do a domestic fire inspection the type of cu is looked at & if on the list the home owner is shown the recall notice & advised to get in a sparks to check it.
They also check how cluttered with combustible items the area (under stairs in a cupboard) around the cu is & advise a clear out.
 
Didn't really get the chance fella. We were asked not to repeat each other, Mr Morris did most of the talking and I agreed with most of it. I gave a brief account of my thoughts on the current situation, mostly in line with what had already been said. Mr Pollock gave the most damning evidence having been a Electrical Trainee himself prior to getting fully qualified, evidence I could not give. What exactly could I have added other than the answers to the questions that were directed at me? They asked me about enforcement so I answered, I wasn't going to go off on one about 5WWs at that point as that would not have addressed the question asked. They asked me about solutions and I answered. We only had an hour and most of that was taken up by Mr Morris talking about the schemes dirty behaviour and Mr Judson talking about nonsense.

I didn't see you there???

Fair enough & no you didn't see me there................not that it matters if I was there or not, I did how ever watch the session & as such made my own conclusions about the input of all from both sides of the table.
 

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