Flexible Conduit (N.Bundy job)

[Dustydazzler]

Nick Bundy ddoes imo a really neat rcbo board and uses some flexi conduit to get his cables across the garage which imo looks quite neat. But he gets quite a bit of stick in the comments about it...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmzsyYX2ths


thoughts

 

[ipf]

Today, on so many occasions, it's all about meeting regulations. If you're clipping a cable or installing a works lighting system, the standard of work isn't appreciated to the same extent, resulting in cheaper and inferior materials and labour, meeting the requirements according to regulation and H+S.
Sometimes, higher class work is required, which separates the wheat from the chaff. More and more, it's become the exception to the rule.
An example is a client who wants things top class, done correctly with everything spot on, will not tolerate anything in view be it in kitchens, gardens, swimming pools or whatever but is willing to pay for it.

Anything is possible.....but you wouldn't think so.
......and people are being taught to install to regulation standard only....not to that of a true, highly skilled trades person.
Although it's very important, it's not all about everything testing OK.

 

[Midwest]

You lot have been o lockdown too long. Get a life.

 

[davesparks]

I hate the word containment, but IMO full conduit and trunking systems were designed for singles,

The word containment used to annoy me too, but I guess I have just got used to it over the years.

Yes conduit and trunking were originally designed for singles many many years ago, but that doesn't mean that's the only thing they can, or should, be used for.

 

[7029 dave]

You lot have been o lockdown too long. Get a life.

I am going back Monday Noooooo and me trousers dont fit me. lol

 

[nicebutdim]

I've used the term containment repeatedly in this thread as it's the only suitable collective noun I could think of

 

[7029 dave]

I've used the term containment repeatedly in this thread as it's the only suitable collective noun I could think of

Well stop it nicey lol

 

[Leesparkykent]

I’ve watched a few of N Bundys YouTube videos and from what I’ve seen he seems a good domestic electrician. Someone like him would be ideal for knocking out new builds to a good standard and at a good pace....If he worked for you, he would definitely earn you a few quid. However l, I do think using the kopex, like he has was a poor choice. I bit of tray or trunking would of done the job or drilled the joists.

 

[Dustydazzler]

The word containment used to annoy me too, but I guess I have just got used to it over the years.

Yes conduit and trunking were originally designed for singles many many years ago, but that doesn't mean that's the only thing they can, or should, be used for.

steel conduit and galvanised trunking should really be used exclusively for singles imo As it was originally intended...
plastic conduit , kopex and plastic trunking can really be used for anything just to provide additional mechanical protection / cable containmen.
i do feel it has become almost frowned upon to clip cables on the surface , But imo there is nothing wrong with clipped surface

 

[7029 dave]

steel conduit and galvanised trunking should really be used exclusively for singles imo As it was originally intended...
plastic conduit , kopex and plastic trunking can really be used for anything just to provide additional mechanical protection / cable containmen.
i do feel it has become almost frowned upon to clip cables on the surface , But imo there is nothing wrong with clipped surface

Its like most practises, that have become almost extinct in this industry, maybe too labour intensive.

 

[davesparks]

steel conduit and galvanised trunking should really be used exclusively for singles imo As it was originally intended...

So we should all be installing VIR singles? After all that is what galvanised trunking and conduit was originally intended for, PVC insulated cables hadn't been invented.

Why shouldn't we be able to put any cable type in galvanised conduit or trunking? If something needs the mechanical protection of steel conduit then put it in steel conduit, it doesnt matter whether is is singles or anything else.

 

[ipf]

So we should all be installing VIR singles? After all that is what galvanised trunking and conduit was originally intended for, PVC insulated cables hadn't been invented.
Why shouldn't we be able to put any cable type in galvanised conduit or trunking? If something needs the mechanical protection of steel conduit then put it in steel conduit, it doesnt matter whether is is singles or anything else.

I suppose minds could become a bit clouded dependant upon experience but one thing is for sure....you're absolutely spot on with that one.

 

[Dustydazzler]

So we should all be installing VIR singles? After all that is what galvanised trunking and conduit was originally intended for, PVC insulated cables hadn't been invented.

Why shouldn't we be able to put any cable type in galvanised conduit or trunking? If something needs the mechanical protection of steel conduit then put it in steel conduit, it doesnt matter whether is is singles or anything else.

i can’t disagree with that , I’m just saying steel conduit was designed for single cables to be pulled through it...

 

[ipf]

i can’t disagree with that , I’m just saying steel conduit was designed for single cables to be pulled through it...

Same with galv trunking, eh?

 

[Dustydazzler]

Same with galv trunking, eh?

again , I’m not saying don’t use it to contain various varieties of cables

I’m just saying it’s primary function was to contain single cables & should remain its primary function

 

[davesparks]

again , I’m not saying don’t use it to contain various varieties of cables

I’m just saying it’s primary function was to contain single cables & should remain its primary function

It's primary function was, and still is, to provide good mechanical protection to cables. Other functions include providing a rewireable system.

Yes when it was first used it was only for single core cables, but only because that's all they had at the time.

These days we have a variety of cables which need that level of protection, including but not limited to, CAT5/6, sensor cables, fire alarm cables, telecoms, control systems cables, fibre optics.