Flexible Conduit (N.Bundy job)

[Dustydazzler]

Nick Bundy ddoes imo a really neat rcbo board and uses some flexi conduit to get his cables across the garage which imo looks quite neat. But he gets quite a bit of stick in the comments about it...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmzsyYX2ths


thoughts

 

[Dustydazzler]

Which begs another question...

should conduit be reserved for singles only ???

 

[nicebutdim]

Is it really ‘that’ bad...?
ok it’s not the prettiest containment with the wonky flexi tube snaking it’s way along the garage wall , but other than that it ‘does the job‘ ?

Like I said; I could live with the kopex (begrudgingly), but would you fill a cable route with foam and leave thinking it was a decent job? That's something I'd expect from a builder, who didn't care what problems it might cause in the future, and not from an electrician who knows full well what problems it would cause for the next guy.

Put it another way - if Nick turned up to a job where someone else had foamed the void that all cables ran through, he'd rant about what sort of idiot thought it was acceptable. Last year I watched him complain about having to dig out insulation to fit downlighters and go on to talk about having consideration for the next guy - where was that consideration when he was spraying foam?

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Can believe he didn’t baton over the gas pipe and fit 75x85 trunking

 

[ipf]

Is it really ‘that’ bad...?
ok it’s not the prettiest containment with the wonky flexi tube snaking it’s way along the garage wall , but other than that it ‘does the job‘ ?

He's just done a rewire and capped it off with THAT.
Saying the old rubber is in a bad way and rubbishing it....fair enough.....but it's over 60 years old. I wonder how that crap will look in 2040 never mind '80.
I thought he'd have fixed it with metal saddles, by the way.... seeing it's an entry/exit route...Ha!

 

[davesparks]

but would you fill a cable route with foam and leave thinking it was a decent job?

In that particular instance no, I would likely have put a 50mm kopex or two through the wall and filled round it to run the cables through that and give easy future access. I would probably have used foam around the kopex.

 

[Dustydazzler]

The ole hole was already there so is it really the electricians’job’ to stuff it with foam...?

 

[bigspark17]

That flexy is horendous! Lazy and untidy. I would have drilled through joists and dado into top of cu.
what were the switches in the big adap box? I couldnt be arsed to listen to his dull monotonous voice.

 

[nicebutdim]

In that particular instance no, I would likely have put a 50mm kopex or two through the wall and filled round it to run the cables through that and give easy future access. I would probably have used foam around the kopex.

There are many ways of filling a void without restricting cable access, while still keeping out rodents or whatever else may be undesirable.

I've watched quite a few of Nick Bundy's videos and I get the impression that he's generally earnest and a fairly decent spark. The kopex in this video didn't look too good, and he could have done better, but it's not the end of the world. On the other hand I think his use of foam was a terrible idea and not what I would expect. Maybe people don't agree with me, but I can not fathom why anyone would bind up cables in this way, unless there really was no alternative - is access for maintenance/repair/future expansion not a usual consideration?
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The ole hole was already there so is it really the electricians’job’ to stuff it with foam...?

The hole had been blocked with towels - presumably to keep rodents out. Maybe he could have reused those towels instead of foam ?

 

[davesparks]

The ole hole was already there so is it really the electricians’job’ to stuff it with foam...?

Not necessarily the electricians job. But it is nice to do little things like fill holes like that to improve the finish of the job.
But not with a big lump of foam like that.

 

[nicebutdim]

That flexy is horendous! Lazy and untidy. I would have drilled through joists and dado into top of cu.
what were the switches in the big adap box? I couldnt be arsed to listen to his dull monotonous voice.

Adaptable box was receivers for quinetic switches. Owner wanted to minimise disruption and mess, so it may not have been feasible to bring cables through close to CU. Still plenty of other options though...

 

[UNG]

I'm with you. It was a throwaway comment in that the garage wasn't exactly well kept and there were worse places for a rough installation. I'd suggested trunking as the ideal option from my first post, but hadn't watched the whole video to know whether there was a good reason for not doing so - regardless, flexible conduit seemed like the least best option!

Given the guy had just done a rewire the homeowner may have dumped a lot of stuff in the garage out of the house

Trunking would have been my first choice,
The flexible conduit may have looked a bit better if he hadn't cut it back short as the bend above the CU looks like he didn't have enough tube and the way he has tram track fixed it with saddles makes it look even worse, it would have looked much better if they were bunched together and an all round band "saddle" used

 

[ipf]

For a full rewire there aren't many circuits.....and it'll be a job getting any additional circuits to the CU. Another reason for trunking.

 

[StephenRowley]

We're only as good as out last mistake

 

[nicebutdim]

We're only as good as out last mistake

And to be fair, this situation is one of aesthetics and practicality - no one's life is at risk from kopex and foam.

 

[MJPD29]

The kopex doesn't look good but its an aesthetic problem. Judging from videos his work is to a good standard. Everyone is quick to point out faults from behind their keyboard, when the majority of us don't put our work on display for others to pick faults in, myself included. I think we can give him a bit of slack with this one.