Fuse Box/Fuse board - supply and fit

[telectrix]

option 3. fit a gas cooker.

 

[Risteard]

The main issue with your current fuseboard is the up front RCD, so when it trips you lose all your circuits.

In my opinion the main issue is not an upfront RCD. They main issue is that there is no 30mA RCD protection, only 100mA time-delayed.

 

[Ian1981]

The electrician needs to adhere to the current regulations so it maybe that in the light of no 30mA rcd additional protection for cables that he maybe installing buried in the walls , that changing the cu gives the installer this option and in my opinion improves the current state of the electrical installation as a whole in terms of safety and current compliance with the regulations.

 

[westward10]

In my opinion the main issue is not an upfront RCD. They main issue is that there is no 30mA RCD protection, only 100mA time-delayed.

That isn't time delayed, the T would be a D if it were, I think

 

[Ian1981]

Or would there be an s for selective?

 

[davesparks]

What would you do then Westy? change the CU without regards to any testing or inspection, cus all this Muppet has done is look at the CU and thought "hang on some easy money to be made here.

We haven't even seen the whole CU, so it's quite hard to say what is or is not required or what any one of use would do. For all we know there could be a whacking great hole in the top of the existing CU.

We don't know what this person has or has not done, you have just made the assumption that he has only looked at the CU and not done anything more.

 

[westward10]

Or would there be an s for selective?

No the part number on the front would end in a "D". Don't think you would get a Proteus 63A time delayed rcd, not that I dabble with such a brand of course.

 

[stevethesparks]

Aren't all proteus breakers time delayed?

 

[Midwest]

Some are all too willing to charge the customer £200 - £300 for an EICR, errrgh yes you should have a new CU, another £400 please

 

[davesparks]

Aren't all proteus breakers time delayed?

In my experience a fair few of their RCDs are more like smoke grenades

 

[Deleted account]

As standard I supply and fit a new Rcbo board for £450.00 depending on number of circuits, bonding upgrade etc..
Did the electrician say you had to have a new board or did he strongly recommend?

 

[telectrix]

or even a U for untested?

 

[Midwest]

As standard I supply and fit a new Rcbo board for £450.00 depending on number of circuits, bonding upgrade etc..
Did the electrician say you had to have a new board or did he strongly recommend?

Don't care what he said, I'd strongly recommend the OP gets that old poor quality CU replaced

 

[telectrix]

could always fit a biscuit tin round it....

1. amd. 3 compliant.

2. abomination now out of sight.

 

[Midwest]

could always fit a biscuit tin round it....

1. amd. 3 compliant.

2. abomination now out of sight.

Biscuit tins are made of combustible plastic now

 

[Risteard]

That isn't time delayed, the T would be a D if it were, I think

Apologies. I was assuming that "T" was for time-delayed, as S-type (Selective) is a newer term.

 

[suffolkspark]

The cooker manufacturer may even specify 30mA protection, i have come accross this once reading a manual! That proteus rccb looks suspiciously like the old shape contactum.... And the new model wont line up properly as ive tried before.....

Looks like the OP has lost interest now anyway....

 

[JackSparky]

£350

 

[den wise]

Thank you for all the advice
- i am awaiting a written estimate with a breakdown of work to be done - then i will decide what to do next - I think a second opinion is probably best at this stage

 

[den wise]

As standard I supply and fit a new Rcbo board for £450.00 depending on number of circuits, bonding upgrade etc..
Did the electrician say you had to have a new board or did he strongly recommend?

it was recommend that i
replaced the unit

 

[den wise]

I will post an update when i have had a second opinion.. Thank you all again its a appreciated.

 

[den wise]

I will post an update when i have had a second opinion.. Thank you all again its a appreciated.

 

[Octopus]

I will post an update when i have had a second opinion.. Thank you all again its a appreciated.

Good man .... I surprised you had the time to wade through all the responses!

 

[Kiwi-to-go]

If you've asked a question in here chances are you instinctively feel something is nit right with what you're being told. It might be he wants too make a bigger job of it but also might be he doesn't want the job & is trying to put you off.
I would get someone else in & trust your instincts regarding what they say. I have found some excellent people through checkatrade.

Just my 2 p worth!

If you do get CU replaced get one with spare spaces for the future.

Cheers
Richard

 

[Les Macaulay]

Den,

I would advise you to get the EICR done first. If your existing c/u is non-compliant with BS7671, the EICR will detail this. I believe that an EICR should be done after a new C/U is fitted any way.

Cheers

Les

 

[Pete999]

Den,

I would advise you to get the EICR done first. If your existing c/u is non-compliant with BS7671, the EICR will detail this. I believe that an EICR should be done after a new C/U is fitted any way.

Cheers

Les

I reckon if you are that worried about your electrics, an EICR would be best done prior to any work, don't you?

 

[telectrix]

or at least a basic test/inspection to determine:
1. is a replacement CU advisable.
2. is the installation in good enough state to connect to a new CU with RCD protection etc.

 

[Pete999]

or at least a basic test/inspection to determine:
1. is a replacement CU advisable.
2. is the installation in good enough state to connect to a new CU with RCD protection etc.

Yeah right on Dude, I mean Tel been watching some 60s carp on the telly Man far out.

 

[telectrix]

can't wait for monday. 9 p.m. i think. star trek iv... the voyage home.

 

[Pete999]

can't wait for monday. 9 p.m. i think. star trek iv... the voyage home.

Cant think of the times I have seen that, got 10 episodes of the Royal to watch al them nurses from the 60s ohh Matron

 

[telectrix]

better not allow you to see St. Trinian's then.

 

[Pete999]

better not allow you to see St. Trinian's then.

Probably best not the Tel

 

[Gakure]

Nice feedbacks.

1. First the client house could be in a farm where service are TT and they requires that size RCD to protect the earth. "Just playing devil advocate".
2. An EICR is required after change of of CU, will the £350 include EICR, supply and install or will inspection and testing will be invoiced differently?