Fused spur from an immersion switch?

[Des 56]

QUOTE=wirepuller;688437]I'm still waiting for your technical explanation of why any of the proposed solutions are unacceptable.[/QUOTE]

It seems you are to wait a while yet,it's getting tiresome this waiting game lol

 

[markc123]

I really hope the admins / mod's don't see this...providing my entertainment for the night.

Wirepuller you've got ure hands full here buddy lol!

 

[KAS1]

So why not put immersion heaters on the ring main?

 

[worzol99]

****ing bodgers that's all I can say you do it if you must but don't advise others

Ive never seen you give any advise to others just plain stupid remarks, which i think even you cant explain

 

[KAS1]

Have you any idea why immersion heaters are allocated their own circuit?

 

[KAS1]

Explain why you think that's a stupid remark, can you read the advice they are giving out?

Ive never seen you give any advise to others just plain stupid remarks, which i think even you cant explain

 

[Deleted member 9648]

So why not put immersion heaters on the ring main?

The whole idea of a RFC is for portable and transient loads....an immersion heater is a fixed load over 2KW for which the regs recommend...(note recommend) a radial. An immersion heater therefore should be on a radial.....but not all radials have to be dedicated to one load.

 

[MDJ]

In before the closure from the mods


Ten

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Have you any idea why immersion heaters are allocated their own circuit?

Have you?....I'm still waiting for you to provide a plausible technical explanation as to why a 12a IH and a 5a heater cant be on a 20a radial assuming cable sizes are adequate.
Please explain why an IH MUST be completely dedicated.

 

[timo1]

Why close it? Theres room in the sandbox for everone...

 

[markc123]

we need a bouncer, sintra on the prowl lol

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Well KAS! has presumably gone to write up his techo explanation and I'm bored....nite all.:waving:

 

[markc123]

Or Sintra has dragged him by the neck out the forum lol! Cheers wirepuller, that was entertaining.

 

[Steve_P]

Have you any idea why immersion heaters are allocated their own circuit?

Because immersion heaters have anger issues and like to be on their own in dark closets, sorry, cupboards?

 

[jimk996]

we need a bouncer, sintra on the prowl lol

Guys, I thought it might raise a few answers this one... me & my colleague had a more democratic debate but I respect your honest opinions and can understand KAS1's passion but think we should tone it down?

 

[Sintra]

For ****s sake dedicated circuits don't count for anything anymore are you thick

KAS1 please do not break the forum rules by swearing and insulting other members. Last warning.

 

[THE INVERTER]

Sounds good to me
2.5 T+E
change MCB to 20A CHECK MAX Zs
2 items on 1 radial NICE
is heater in bathroom RCD protection ?
NO WORSE THAN 4 DOUBLE SOCKETS ON A 20A 2.5 RADIAL

 

[Darkwood]

If the immersion is used as the sole means of hot water...No...ideally it should remain a dedicated radial
If the immersion is not or little used..(standby if boiler fails)...you could do this by using a 20a 2way grid switch as a changeover switch. Wire it so either the I/H or bathroom heater can be used independantly but not at the same time.

Wirepuller ... this wouldn't comply regarding the 2way switch method as it would fall foul of 554.3.3 unless you were to have a double pole switch also which you failed to make clear in your suggestion.

 

[jimk996]

Hi Inverter, heater in living area but thanks for that input.... as all comments are thanked

 

[Octopus]

This thread is another good example why the plain english society needs to proof read the next edition of the regs.

Immersions on dedicated radial

 

[jimk996]

Go on Murdoch maybe you've seen what others haven't, give us a Regs No.to cross ref?

 

[decolad69]

For ****s sake dedicated circuits don't count for anything anymore are you thick

WOW ! This is't the usual banter ! You guys know the regs backwards! Can i suggest you put down the regs and try a dictionary? Dedicated means dedicated no matter if there is capacity in the circuit is dedicated to the immersion heater.

No offence intended

 

[trev]

How about in the late 70s/early 80s. It was common practice then to have a bathroom heater running from a dedicated lighting circuit. My sister and her husband had just such an arrangement in their new build house in Blyth.

 

[decolad69]

The seventies where full of dedication !

 

[THE INVERTER]

Im getting a bit fed up with this heater
How about a fused spur for a power shower (3A) off of the same circuit
sweet