Garden distribution board

[ncpitts]

Hi all,
I would like to pick your collective brains by asking if any of you has installed a DB/consumer unit in a garden or outside which is flat and flush to the ground . This one is by a lake and needs to be flat. It will be sat in grass/lawn
Ideas or solutions please

Ta lots

Nigel

 

[ncpitts]

It can be done but it won't be cheap,think about the link boxes that are set into the pavement,you could use one of these and mount the CU inside it,all cables would have to be put in at once though as the bottom gets filled with resin to ensure it's watertight,regarding the condensation issue this could be cured by placing a couple of large bags of dessicant inside the enclosure.this is what BT dbviously the job should be done on a warm dry day as the lower humidity in the atmosphere would also limit the amount of potential condensation.

Quality , Dessicant - Brilliant ! thanks mate !!!

 

[ncpitts]

Why do you need a distribution board in the middle of the garden for a bunch of cameras?
Put the distribution board next to the control kit for the cameras, or is that being buried too?

Cameras will need naff all current so you'll probably be able to get a lot of them on one radial.

The supply to the garden/lakei s on a B16 to then push on to the camera location i need to down rate to B6 to achieve a workable Zs reading

 

[Rockingit]

The supply to the garden/lakei s on a B16 to then push on to the camera location i need to down rate to B6 to achieve a workable Zs reading

Not often you'll hear me say this.... RCD. Or run the camera power from the 16 point, maybe. Only you know what the runs are.

 

[Guest111]

Not often you'll hear me say this.... RCD. Or run the camera power from the 16 point, maybe. Only you know what the runs are.

It's that brown liquid stuff that can make a right mess of your strides if you don't reach the bog in time.


Sorry Rock,I couldn't resist.lol:stooge_curly:

 

[davesparks]

The supply to the garden/lakei s on a B16 to then push on to the camera location i need to down rate to B6 to achieve a workable Zs reading

Or make the cable bigger to achieve the correct Zs.

 

[trev]

I can't see the problem really myself. a simple and long term solution to follow.

1) First get a nice square washing up bowel and fit the relevant packing glands to suit the cables.
2) find an old Wylex style board with rewire-able fuse carriers, glue this into the bowel with a suitable moisture resistant construction adhesive.
3) Terminate, test all connections fit fuses.
4) Fill up the washing bowel to the top with Silicone potting compound.
5) Cut a piece of 18mm marine ply and paint with three coats of waterproof paint.
6) Glue a piece of astro turf to one side of the plywood.
7) Place the turf lid onto the top top of the buried bowel as a lid.

Problem sorted, if the fuses go you can push your hands through the gel and remove them and then re seal.

Can we leave the bowels out of this please. we've already been told off for some of the things on this one so we have to be good lads.
Do you really do your washing up in a bowel? Can't imagine that being very hygenic.

 

[telectrix]

Don't fancy the astro turf on my bowel. Short and curly hairs are bad enough.

 

[ncpitts]

Not often you'll hear me say this.... RCD. Or run the camera power from the 16 point, maybe. Only you know what the runs are.

Done all the calcs and main db will be rcbo protected, this is due to the fact that i am not sure how many carrier bags to use
Seriously the main supply is rcbo then mcb in the ip67 db with b breakers for subcircuits

 

[ncpitts]

Or make the cable bigger to achieve the correct Zs.

Yes was a consideration but had to think how many 10mm's can you get in a switched spur ,

So smaller breakers it is

 

[ncpitts]

Okay to sign this one off we are going with the horrendously expensive pop up power box .

Many thanks to all the guys that contributed constructively and i have thanked all , I think

Glad we got away from the narrow minded lot who thought it was stupid and those whose only reply was to insult, please stay off , it doesn't help,

Cheers for now
Nige

 

[Engineer54]

Okay to sign this one off we are going with the horrendously expensive pop up power box .

Many thanks to all the guys that contributed constructively and i have thanked all , I think

Glad we got away from the narrow minded lot who thought it was stupid and those whose only reply was to insult, please stay off , it doesn't help,

Cheers for now
Nige

I still think it's a bloody stupid idea, the only thing that has saved the day so to speak, is aiming silly amounts of money at a daft idea!!

 

[Rockingit]

the only thing that has saved the day so to speak, is aiming silly amounts of money at a daft idea!!

So it IS show-business afterall!!![emoji6]

 

[Knobhead]

Okay to sign this one off we are going with the horrendously expensive pop up power box .

Many thanks to all the guys that contributed constructively and i have thanked all , I think

Glad we got away from the narrow minded lot who thought it was stupid and those whose only reply was to insult, please stay off , it doesn't help,

Cheers for now
Nige

Hope you have to pay for it when you find the basic design fault in your idea. As you say, it’s expensive, a lot of money is going to go to waste.

But as I’m one of the narrow minded lot I’ll leave you to it.

 

[Octopus]

Okay to sign this one off we are going with the horrendously expensive pop up power box .

Many thanks to all the guys that contributed constructively and i have thanked all , I think

Glad we got away from the narrow minded lot who thought it was stupid and those whose only reply was to insult, please stay off , it doesn't help,

Cheers for now
Nige

Matey, with YOUR CRXP OP I'm surprised you got any constructive responses.

Read this from top to bottom then imagine, what what the responses would have been like if YOUR OP had included ALL relevent information you later reveaed.

You get out what you put in, so poor post & crxp replies.

 

[Rockingit]

Matey, with YOUR CRXP OP I'm surprised you got any constructive responses.

Read this from top to bottom then imagine, what what the responses would have been like if YOUR OP had included ALL relevent information you later reveaed.

You get out what you put in, so poor post & crxp replies.

Not trying to pick a fight here, genuinely interested, so if I'd have posted up 'need a very small 3ph board for a job' (or whatever), would I have not gotten a sensible reply until I'd posted up the entire design?

Like I said earlier, I do think some of you were keener to jump to derision than take it at face value, simply as it wasn't some factory or domestic situation.

Maybe.