Gluing alarm cables to UPVC Window frames & Door architraves

[Charlie_]

Sometimes when speech marks and apostrophes get mixed up, they find themselves in a grave

 

[MJPD29]

Hello Matthewd29,

Thanks for your reply.

I am not `penny pinching` but I am hoping to find an adhesive in a small tube because the entire length of Alarm detector cable that I will need to glue around the Window frames and Door architraves is only approximately 60 cms.

The Alarm cables will be coming down from the ceiling and having to cross over quite a detailed UPVC frame `moulding` on the frames / door architraves.

Chris

Ah I see, maybe reseal the shower tray with the remainder and kill 2 birds with 2 stone? Lol

 

[pirate]

maybe they are kwotashun marques?

 

[ipf]

Hello ipf,

I am guessing that the problem is the Alarm Control Box RF Receiver - as I am not at all experienced in `Electronics` I would not have the `PCB soldering expertise` or the `precise manual dexterity` to go about replacing that - even IF I could source the exact component to replace it.

If it could be replaced all the detectors connected within the Control Box would have to be un-wired and also the Siren Box cable / Siren Box cable protector and the 235 volt supply disconnected - the Control Box removed from the wall to be worked on.

Far too much `messing about` compared to gluing some Alarm cable to UPVC architraves.

I think that I have seen it within the Control Box / on a fairly big PCB and it definitely does not look like a `DIY replaceable component`.

With the exception of replacing / hard wiring detectors my Home Alarm system is far too old for any Control Box spares to be available - I believe that the Manufacturers [Yale] considered it to be `obsolete` about 10 years ago regarding no more spares or wireless detectors being available.

Apart from various problems with detectors failing and RF Interference issues in the past the Alarm has worked for about 20 Years - I am guessing that is pretty good for any Domestic Alarm system ?

During those years usually to either overcome RF Interference or replacing malfunctioning / unavailable Wireless detectors I have had to hard wire various detectors to the Control box.

On this occasion it seems that the Alarm Control Box RF receiver has malfunctioned so I now have to get rid of the remaining Wireless Window and Door detectors and hard wire magnetic contacts to available connections in the Control Box.

It would be nice to have a new House Alarm Control Box but can You really recommend that regarding the fact that I am hoping to solve my Alarm system problem with a £5.00 or £6.00 tube of glue ?

Chris

Just thinking...…..what's the point of having a wireless detector system if you're hard wiring it all?
….all be it bit by bit, when something fails.

 

[littlespark]

Always makes me laugh when one person corrects another person with incorrect information.

To misquote a famous doctor.... “I’m an electrician, Jim... not an English teacher”

 

[Zerax]

Sometimes when speech marks and apostrophes get mixed up, they find themselves in a grave

Can you warn us the next time you try humour... especially French humour !

 

[Charlie_]

Can you warn us the next time you try humour... especially French humour !

Glad to see that it didn’t go over your head

 

[Tony Reidy]

Hello All,

I am hoping to find a recommendation from members for a small tube of adhesive that is suitable for gluing Burglar Alarm detector cables to UPVC Window frames and Door architraves.

I don`t want to buy a Hot Glue gun and glue sticks as I only have 4 cables to run down quite detailed frames / door architraves.

Plus I have been told that although that type of adhesive does work when running the cables it does not hold them long term ?

I have thought about white Silicone mastic but only if there is no suitable small tube adhesive choice.

I have Googled: `Security cable adhesive` - `Security accessories glue` - Electrical cable adhesive / glue` - but I was finding adhesives which seemed to be designed to be used when jointing cables.

Can Members recommend a suitable adhesive - in a small tube hopefully ?

I am having to hard wire some Window / Door Magnetic contacts to my Home`s existing Alarm system because the Control box has stopped being able to receive the signals from my Wireless Detectors.

Previously the detectors were adhered to the Windows and Doors with strong hook & loop pads and there were only very short pieces of Bell wire running between the Wireless detector and the Magnetic contact on the Window frames / Door architraves.

Thanks in advance for any help / recommendations.

Chris

My local hardware also does bubbles for spirit levels and sparks for an angle grinder

 

[Squid]

Post photos up as glueing cables to a plastic window surround should make the electrician on here with a level of standard and workmanship weep...........

 

[Charlie_]

Get some sticky back cable or
wrap the cable up in double sided tape and then easily apply

 

[chris murphy]

Sticky back cable holders or cable tie pads

Hello again Charlie,

Thanks for your suggestion.

The UPVC Window frames and Door architraves are white and there are blinds that don`t cover the corners of the frames or architraves.

I have some of the cable tie pads that You described they would look terrible stuck to the white UPVC - they might be a possibility where curtains would be covering the top corners of the frames / architraves.

Chris

 

[chris murphy]

Post photos up as glueing cables to a plastic window surround should make the electrician on here with a level of standard and workmanship weep...........

Hello SWD,

I have never seen any better way to run Alarm cables to UPVC Windows and Doors than gluing them around the shape of the `moulding`.

That is what every Alarm fitter that I have ever seen did - although I realise that is no reason to think that it would be the method used by a good Electrician I would be interested in why You seem to be stating that it is a ridiculous idea ?

Drilling a hole behind the moulding / frame / architrave without causing damage would not be worth trying compared to me gluing the cables.

Causing damage that would then be visible and could cost quite a lot of money to rectify is not an option that I would want to do.

Although as You might have noticed I am not an Electrician [below my messages] I am a `Technical Tradesman` and I do everything in my trades to the highest possible standard of workmanship - I would be interested in finding out what an Electrician would do without ANY chance of causing damage to the UPVC ?

What would You / `an Electrician with a level standard and workmanship` do that was guaranteed to NOT cause any damage ?

Chris

 

[Squid]

Spend more do the job as it should be done. Perfection is the key not harf measures and it doesn't matter what it costs as a cable glued to a plastic window would annoy the hell out of me but then again I don't think I would ever live i a house with plastic windows, it like having a blow up doll as a "wife".

 

[chris murphy]

Do you have house insurance?
Covered for break ins?
If so do you think the insurance company will pay out if burglars get in?

Hello again Charlie,

I have only just seen your message above after replying to one of your other replies.

I do have Home Insurance / Contents Insurance plus `good doors & windows` - high standard locks - CCTV and an Alarm.

I am sure that You know - the whole idea of having a Burglar Alarm is that hopefully when it goes off the Burglars immediately go away without having spent enough time [if any] to find and steal your valuables.

Why would you question whether I had Insurance and whether they would pay out on a thread that is asking about gluing Alarm detector cables to UPVC Window frames and Door architraves ?

Were You trying to suggest that if I have Home Insurance I don`t need a Alarm ?

Having your Home burgled and then claiming on your Insurance is that last thing that anyone would want.

Chris

 

[Charlie_]

Hi Chris
The reason I mentioned home insurance;
If the worst was to happen and your house was burgled, based on the age of your burglar alarm and lack of professional maintenance then I’m certain that the insurance would have just cause to not pay out.