Goodbye 2391

[pirhead]

Guys heres some news that will give a lot of people a sigh of releif the 2391 as we know it will be abolished by december 2011!!!! Yeah thats right no more 2391, The qualification is going to broken down into three seperate units 1. Initial verification 2. Periodic Inspection 3. Design and Testing Its all part of the new QCF for electricians does anybody know what QCF means :rockon2:

 

[ian.settle1]

Guys heres some news that will give a lot of people a sigh of releif the 2391 as we know it will be abolished by december 2011!!!! Yeah thats right no more 2391, The qualification is going to broken down into three seperate units 1. Initial verification 2. Periodic Inspection 3. Design and Testing Its all part of the new QCF for electricians does anybody know what QCF means :rockon2:

This is a seperate qualification at present now known as 2391-20 or as it used to be known 2400.

 

[brizospark]

is the 2391-20 worth doing?

 

[johnboy6083]

i hope the 2391 doesnt dissapear. its one of the quals that sets them men apart from the boys. I am going to try and attempt the 2391-2 in the next 6 months or so.

 

[ruston]

In the light of some recent posts regarding skill and experience soon the old qualifications and job acquired skills will mean nothing, and new qualifications that mean nothing will mean everything; contradiction in terms-Well they started it!

 

[topquark]

Shame if 2391 goes

As for QCF: City & Guilds | QCF | Bringing clarity to the QCF

 

[pirhead]

is the 2391-20 worth doing?

Yeah, I do not think that the new framework of will make the old ones invalid. If anyting the older qual 2391 is much more of an ask than what is come. It just the exam broken down into achievable sizes I think, I thinkd the present rate of failure is causing the rethink.:helmet:

 

[pirhead]

thanks for that topquark

 

[malcolmsanford]

is the 2391-20 worth doing?

Yes it is a very good qualification, but what I find amazing that there are very few, if any jobs you see that ask for this qualification.

If you look at it the 2391-10 is perhaps about 60% of this qualification, so your really doing the 2391-10 plus the design side of things, IMO it's an excellent stepping stone onto HNC/HND

 

[vernam616]

Im glad i waited now, i had a feeling they might do something about it because of the low pass rate and lots of companys requiring that you have it


Where did you find this out anyway?

 

[pirhead]

If I tell u I would have to send the boys round!:cheesy:

 

[pirhead]

People tend to find they will be asked for 2391 at i/view for no apparent reason other than the fact that the employer has so many people to choose from.

 

[vernam616]

Hmm ive had agencys call me, and no matter how much i tell them im competant to test, they just wont accept me for a certain number of jobs because its strict on 2391 qualified

 

[Guest123]

Well if there is substance in this, it's an absolute travesty!!

Just another example of the dumbing down of the qualifications in our industry which only serves to make a mockery of it. I thought the 2391 would remain untouched as the knowledge needed to pass it is essential in the inspection, testing & certification of everyday electrical installations, (particularly PIR's) which at the end of the day IS the most important aspect of an electrical installation as it ensures thte install is safe for the end user.

This mickey mouse QCF nonsense is all about bums on seats and churning out partially qualified installers unfit to cover the range of electrical installations that we encounter daily.

It all seems to fall inline with the new idiot proof EICR.....a tick here & a tick there.....job done. No thought or knowledge seems to be required anymore....just follow the instructions on the box.

This is a very sad day indeed!!!

 

[Sparky Ninja]

The existing suite of VRQs will also be migrated to the QCF, including the 2382, 2391 and 2377.

November 2009: Electrotechnical/Electrical and Electronic Servicing qualifications